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Mar 11 2022 02:06pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 11 2022 01:31pm)
ya but like u legit hate minorities and blame heaps of issues on the jews that you say you dont care if they get destroyed. not exactly a leap to call you a nazi.


Exhibit A you're honor.
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Mar 11 2022 02:06pm
belarus president said toady ukraine was not trying to attack donbas when russia attacked ukraine, but in the same day ukraine wanted to invade belarus as well.

good thing russia was vigilent and stopped like 3 wars at the same time.

putin = napoleon x3
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Mar 11 2022 02:17pm
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belarus president said toady ukraine was not trying to attack donbas when russia attacked ukraine, but in the same day ukraine wanted to invade belarus as well.

good thing russia was vigilent and stopped like 3 wars at the same time.

putin = napoleon x3


Belarus what? I wouldn't believe anything he brings out.
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Mar 11 2022 02:22pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 11 2022 02:31pm)
ya but like u legit hate minorities and blame heaps of issues on the jews that you say you dont care if they get destroyed. not exactly a leap to call you a nazi.



Anyone who doesn’t virtual signal & simp for diversity is a nazi
Also anyone to the right of Karl Marx is a nazi
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Mar 11 2022 02:23pm
Quote (2020A @ Mar 11 2022 03:22pm)
Anyone who doesn’t virtual signal & simp for diversity is a nazi
Also anyone to the right of Karl Marx is a nazi


i think that huh?
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Mar 11 2022 02:27pm
Lukashenko the genius :rofl: https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1502271144908529670

Quote (Norlander @ Mar 11 2022 07:17pm)
Propaganda works well on elder people who watch TV. I don't believe that 74% of people really support this so called special operation. Thousands are getting arested each day for just waving a banner with "No to war". Personally I feel guilty and can't stop thinking about my family left in Ukraine. There are no bombings there yet. Yet.


I heard it was about 58% that support it, at least from people surveyed in Moscow, but maybe they're more liberal than people in the suburbs

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Mar 11 2022 02:32pm
Quote (dro94 @ 11 Mar 2022 23:27)
Lukashenko the genius :rofl: https://twitter.com/franakviacorka/status/1502271144908529670



I heard it was about 58% that support it, at least from people surveyed in Moscow, but maybe they're more liberal than people in the suburbs


I meant the whole country. Here in Moscow I've seen no one supporting this, excluding brainwashed by TV elder people. Which are many.
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Mar 11 2022 02:46pm
Quote (ferdia @ 11 Mar 2022 16:59)
I stand by the benign dictator statement. The fact that you are taking this out of context is on you, not me. In terms of different cultures/nations having different ways of governance I would say that it is you that is misreading. to summarize my position: the form of government in any country, whether democratically elected or not, is not the determining factor as to whether that government framework would work in another country or not, or that another country needed a democratically elected government to work as well. In terms of nifty quotes in signatures, I dont have same but you do. regardless of whether another user has misquoted or w/e, if the quote or signature is determined (by me) as nice, i will say it, but dont then do a Cathy Newman on me and read further into that then face value.

finally, i agree with all of this: talking about putin is not the narrow-minded gossiping you probably imagine when reading the (likely misattributed) quote in santara's sig. he's an important statesman, has been a major influence in world politics for several decades, the single most influential person of a major military power. discussing his decisions and character, the consequences of his actions, is legitimate and important discourse. the "person" inextricably linked with "ideas" and ideals he represents and "events" that he causes and influences. you can't just disregard one element that's uncomfortable, and try to rationalise away current events (a full blown war, a hostile invasion, war crimes, lies, miscalculations, tragedy, suffering, death, propaganda...) by imagining an "idea" he ideally could stand for in an alternative universe. we're all living in a timeline where he's a murderer, war-monger, and dictator.


you doubling down on your fallacious talking points doesn't make them any more right or credible, especially if done without providing any further context or substance. it also doesn't make your random tangent about different forms of government and democratic legitimacy any more relevant to the original discussion. as predicted, you can't even back up your claim of the alleged "general acceptance" of the "benign dictatorship" as ideal government claim, so i don't even have to explain how acceptance doesn't necessarily imply acceptability. so maybe let's agree to focus on actual events, not idealised fantasies of what putin could stand for in a different universe.
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Mar 11 2022 02:58pm
if you dont understand the concept of a benign dictator then thats on you, not me. Its not my fault if you have to read books about it. If your hang up is words like democracy; dictator; again, thats on you, not me. If you are triggered by anything I said, again, thats on you, not me. You took a complement I gave to another user out of context and your now throwing your toys about the expression benign dictator. Sec while I read over how we got here.

Quote (fender @ Mar 11 2022 01:27pm)
i don't mind disagreeing if both sides present good faith arguments in an honest way and simply come to different conclusions / have different priorities. i don't think that was the case though, and i don't like it as a cop out.


ah yes, your basically calling me a troll. so (1) you assumed I was talking to you when i complemented someone else and (2) you assumed i was not acting in good faith when I was talking to you. I dont care how you spin this with fancy words, your just being difficult because you have a bee in your bonnet. honestly, really?

If you cant converse without jumping to conclusions thats, again, on you, not me.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 11 2022 03:13pm
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Mar 11 2022 03:10pm
Quote (ferdia @ 11 Mar 2022 21:58)
Google.


googled it. 100% confirms MY position that it's a relatively obscure theory for which there are hardly any decent real life examples, comprehensively debunking your claim of "general acceptance" as the "ideal" form of government. thanks for playing. lmk if you need any other dumb narratives destroyed.
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