Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 1 2022 04:03pm)
countries left the USSR and gained independence. some of them left the favor of Russia rather quickly, some of them have left much later, and some are still in the favor of Russia. once they do leave russia, through american led coups or simply from electing more liberal leaders (other places have ebbs and flows of a conservative to liberal pendulum just as we do) they're seen as an enemy of Russia. and just as we led a coup in Ukraine, Russia is prone to lead a coup in their country to stop any liberal movements from detaching from the Russian sphere of influence. if they have a liberal govt that is feeling the pressure of Russia who are we to deny them aid, whether it's NATO membership or just aid/intel, because of an informal hand shake 30 years ago made to a country that was on the brink of violent collapse and in fact asking the USA for inaction to facilitate said collapse. we could have moved in and destroyed them but did not due to the threat of MAD during said collapse. they had a broken leg, we allowed them time to heal. and by proxy they basically said leave us be and we wont end the earth or sell nukes to terrorists. yet a single line from an informal agreement is taken as literally as idiotic interpretations of the 2nd amendment claiming we should be able to as private citizens own intercontinental ballistic missiles. just as we moved more than an inch west Russia has violently defended the expansion of western governance across international borders. they're not kittens, they're poisoners, they're assassins, they're run by ex-KGB, and they've carried on it's legacy.
Weird framing. Why would we destroy them? There's nothing to gain and everything to lose from doing this. Very few things in life motivate the masses more than external threats and armies moving in on you and at that point for no good reason. Why would we attack when someone like Yeltsin was basically doing the wests will in deconstructing organically the dead empire.
And to be honest with you, I don't view them as the good guys, I just view them as self-interested and assertive. I have no illusions, they for sure are imperialistic and want to domineer their smaller neighbors but tbh that's nothing new under the sun. That's how the world worked for millennia. They wanted a seat at the table at one point, even hinted at joining NATO we told them to get lost and accept the loss and that we run shit now. This is how they responded, who would have thought.
This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 1 2022 03:27pm