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Quote (GLYC123 @ Dec 10 2019 12:24pm)
Impeachment is going well for Trump, nothing is happening, except, as I said before, this is turning against the Democrats.

How do you think Joe Bidens reputation has suffered from the Impeachment hearings?

I think now the Democrats have lost one of their better candidate chances, Joe Biden, since they decided to gas-light the corruption allegations against Biden to the public.


Good.
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Dec 10 2019 05:29am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 9 2019 11:46pm)
The most fucking generic thing you could ever say. Dems in 2019 are irrelevant they literally blend into the background.


Not a statistical argument.
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Dec 10 2019 06:41am
Quote (Landmine @ 10 Dec 2019 04:38)
Says France. When's the last time your country has won anything?


Russia probe & Impeachment were justified, one didn't exonerate Trump and the other stacked so much evidences that acting like a loser is the only way for cultists.

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Dec 10 2019 08:37am
Pelosi & Nadler announced the official impeachment articles at their press conference.
No dodging around obstruction, they really did lay it out as a charge and try to argue that Trump committed a high crime of obstructing congress by challenging the subpoenas in court. Nadler gave a brief speech arguing "Why we shouldn't wait for the courts", without a hint of irony.
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Dec 10 2019 09:01am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Dec 9 2019 10:28pm)
Last facts

Russia probe was justified
Impeachment was justified




Just like our favorite baguette boy. Lot of claims... zero proof.
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Pelosi & Nadler announced the official impeachment articles at their press conference.
No dodging around obstruction, they really did lay it out as a charge and try to argue that Trump committed a high crime of obstructing congress by challenging the subpoenas in court. Nadler gave a brief speech arguing "Why we shouldn't wait for the courts", without a hint of irony.



half the legislature thinks its more powerful than the executive and judicial branches combined

then it unironically accuses anyone else of ‘abuse of power’ lmfao
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Dec 10 2019 09:13am
Quote (Ghot @ 10 Dec 2019 16:01)
Just like our favorite baguette boy. Lot of claims... zero proof.


Ok, boomer

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Looks like proof to me. :/



/e In other news... it's time to send Jason Bourne after Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, Wray, Omar and Tlaib, for various reasons. Least of which are their danger to this country.

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Dec 10 2019 09:35am
"Let us resolve to learn the lessons of this long, sad year. Let us learn now, having come this far, the wisdom of the founders that impeachment is and must be a high barricade, not to be mounted lightly. Let us learn that because it requires the overwhelming support of the Senate to succeed, it cannot and should not proceed on a merely partisan basis. Let us learn that the desire to impeach and remove must be shared broadly, or it is illegitimate.

Let us learn that the subject matter of impeachment must be a matter of great gravity, calling into question the President's very ability to lead, and endangering the nation's liberty, freedom, security. Let us learn that the case against the President must be a strong and unambiguous one in fact and in law, for even a President deserves the benefit of our reasonable doubts.

The charges brought against President Clinton do not rise to those levels. And even if they did, the case against him is neither strong nor unambiguous. As the White House defense team has made clear, there are ample grounds for doubt about both the facts and law surrounding each of the two articles before us.

It is true that the impeachment process has further alienated millions of Americans from their government, and that is a tragic harm for which the President bears considerable responsibility. It is also true, as we were told by Chairman Hyde yesterday, that the nobility and fragility of a self-governing people requires hard work, every day, to get it right, to fight the good fight, to discern the common good. But I believe, unlike him, that it is the impeachment process itself, both here and in the other body--its partisanship, its meanness and unfairness, its leadership by those who want to win too badly--which has increased people's cynicism; not the prospect of the President's 'getting away' with something.

Our nation was founded on the Jeffersonian principle, 'that government is the strongest of which every man feels himself a part.' What Jefferson and the other Founders feared was the warning of their counterpart Rousseau: 'As soon as any man says of the affairs of State 'What does it matter to me?' the state may be given up as lost.' But while the many signs of disaffection among our people are growing, I do not think we have reached the point of no return; there is time in this Congress to recover from this episode, and to move on.

Despite the claims of pundits that Americans have simply tuned out, I think a deeper reality is present in their reactions, and in the polls. In fact, most Americans, in their wisdom, have reached a subtle, sophisticated judgment in this case, and have already moved beyond it. As is so often the case, they're way ahead of Washington. It is true that they abhor the President's behavior, but don't believe it merits his removal. In addition, they believe that there are larger issues facing the nation than the misdeeds that nearly all now concede the President committed: peace in the Middle East; the hunger of children; the health of Americans; saving our social security safety net; debating whether hundreds of billions of dollars of surplus should go to bolster Medicare, or to some combination of universal savings accounts or tax cuts. These are the things that the people sent us here to work on. These are the things that I hear about when I return to my state.

So let us now bring to a close, with our votes, this long, sad year of investigation and impeachment. And let us resolve that there shall be many a year before we have another one like it. It is time for our country to pull together to seek an end to the fractious partisanship that has defined this period, and to re-engage a full-throated, genuine debate about our nation's future that can help us find again that common ground that unites us as Americans, and that can serve as a firm foundation for resolving the many serious problems that still face our country--impeachment or not--today and tomorrow.

-Sen. Paul Wellstone in 1999

“We’re going to go in and impeach the motherfucker!”

-Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib in 2019;

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Dec 10 2019 09:40am
Quote (Ghot @ 10 Dec 2019 16:14)
Looks like proof to me. :/



/e In other news... it's time to send Jason Bourne after Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi, Wray, Omar and Tlaib, for various reasons. Least of which are their danger to this country.



I can tone down on the protesting vote against Hillary Clinton (despite she still had a popular majority while EC is a disaster for democracy).
On the other hand i cannot act friendly when all you do is to fall in denial and fart out destructive conspiracy theories.
The proofs are here, validated by your own DOJ or publicly exposed in your congress.


Why do hate your country so much ?

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Dec 10 2019 09:40am
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