ukraine losing 7-10 million of their population to west-nations, crippling the country for the next 50 years just based on the demographic change alone. These women(with their kids) will never go back by the way i can promise you 100%. As soon as these women get residence permit, which they will, then they will also be able to have their husbands/men come over whenever the situation allows (during war-pause or even after the war). This will easily mean 2-3million more will be gone. (7-10million gone now, with potential of 13+million total)
--> no big deal broo i pooomisee

Ukraine losing 6+million to russian controll
--> no big deal bro

250-500k russians leaving russia = russia collapse coming in 23 days. Do you not realise russia is like 150million, ukraine atm is barely 30million?

Im curious, do you actually believe in the shit you say? Does your brain not allow you to comprehend that ukraine is being completely destroyed? EVEN if the war ended today, Ukraine is completely and utterly destroyed? If this war goes on for a few more years, and keeps escalating just as you "pro" ukranians want, there won't be much of a ukraine left even if they "win"? The truth is you don't actually care about ukraine, your not pro ukraine, you are pro-beating russia. That is it. This is the problem when you forfeit your politics to outsiders, they don't care what happens to you as long as they get what they want.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Oct 26 2022 08:46pm

ukraine so far got something like 80ish? billion, a massive portion of which is lend-and-lease. This is nothing. There is already damage of 100-750billion, and the war has just started. You people seem to forget that giving/lending weapons is not the same as rebuilding. Nobody is interested in rebuilding nations, that is a painful and seriously expensive adventure (nobody rebuilt iraq,syria,libya,yemen,afghanistan etc, why would they rebuild ukraine?)
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-invasion-ukraine-caused-over-97-bln-damages-report-2022-09-09/

And if we ignore that, lets just count the human losses, 13 (minimum atm) - 20 million (potentially).

1 human life is usually valued at around 1-3 million by most estimates in Europe, lets assume ukranians are less productive at 1million usd per life, and we assume 13million pop loss, That is 1millionx13million = 13trillion usd. We are talking about the complete destruction of a nation, and you guys are peddling nonsense propaganda as if your playing runescape. . Zelensky should've signed the istanbul accords, it isn't worth destroying your people in exchange for joining nato. The pro-ukraine crowd somehow doesn't see this.

The views of some people here are so devoid from reality, and sickly unhinged.. Most sick part is some here are ukranian cheerleading the destruction of their people, by posting a couple of pictures of 1-3 dead russians. or joking about toilets. Sick people. Breaking minsk 1/2 was the biggest crime commited against ukranians since holodomar, and this time it was done deliberately by ukranians.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Oct 26 2022 09:36pm

Clearly you haven't seen what Russia has been fielding lately for the most part, parade troops in Moscow do not take part in the "Special Military Operation"



Clearly at this point nobody has exact figures, with figure of 8 million being the most reasonable and well supported estimate.



Wrong again, 41 million was with Crimea excluded. Ethnicity has very little to do with anything.



Heard from who? FSB which has all reasons to bs and lower the numbers stated that far more left in early 2022 alone, that was before mobilization was announced.




Thats what maximum mobilization capacity is, with economy fully pledged to support military first.




Why not 6,000 or 5500? Is it something you also heard?

does this guy always make himself look like a utter moron in every post he makes? Inbreeding is bad kids... mkayy

I will try to explain it slowly:

- Ukrainian Women, children, old people: refugees.
- Russian Men who fled mobilization: pussies.

I means wich kind of idiot would do a direct comparison in-between both ? That's it.

After that you can try to deflect on pure numbers, i means what is a piece of meat without bullet proof vest nor decent weapon, completely unmotivated, unprepared ? It's probably an easy 5:1 fail vs Ukrainians.
After that... You can compare Russia+Iran GDP vs Ukraine "allies". The only thing you have left is self destruction for sure.

You are cheerleading the destruction of your country, to further the geopolitical interests of someone 8000km away. You will understand this in 5-ish years. It is a lesson iraqis, syrians, libyans, and many others have learned, in that regard your not special.

A country who loses 25% of their population, women+children to migration/war is the biggest catastrophe imaginable, it will take perhaps 100 years for Ukraine to recoup these losses. The only thing on your mind is weapons,soldiers and army, killing, and destruction, because you are hyper focused on "beating russians", you dont give a shit about ukraine or their future.

The damage done through war (soldiers/civilians killed) is NOTHING compared to the 10+million in population loss (migration).

This post was edited by ownyaah on Oct 26 2022 09:49pm

Every post you make is the same as the one you made prior, are you that demented?

Problem is the state of ecstasy doesn't last and one day you/your people will wake up and realize there isn't anything left. Like i said, these are lessons many populations have learnt historically.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Oct 26 2022 09:47pm

Did you come to that conclusion thanks to your cross-analysis based on countries from ME where there are 20 rival factions that hate each other due to someones goat being stolen 300 years ago?

Its hard to get it into the thick head of yours that these countries are stuck in feudal development stage mostly (at least socially) which is the main reason why they continue warring with one another even after "invading Superpower" leaves. Ukraine is different situation altogether.