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Aug 15 2017 08:49pm
the media is so retarded that it succeeded in making an insignificant segment said by a president into the biggest deal ever
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Aug 15 2017 09:39pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 15 2017 07:26pm)
Tell me again, what was the name of this rally? What were they protesting?


The name of the rally was "unite the right" and its lead organizers was a white supremacist by the name of Jason Kessler and a collection of white supremacist groups, including the National Policy Institute and the National Socialist Movement. The rally was organized in protest of the removal of confederate monuments from public places.. and there certainly were not "very fine people" who were a part of this rally

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the media is so retarded that it succeeded in making an insignificant segment said by a president into the biggest deal ever


Once again we are using the distortion that the media created this problem, and not white supremacists. This rally was organized by self identified white supremacists, and their event was the single largest white supremacists rally the has US seen since WWII. Ignoring this growing problem doesn't make it go away. People need to stop pretending that this is not a problem, and people especially need to stop making excuses for the white supremacists and pretending that they are not the problem.

No, there were not "very fine people" on both sides, and yes people need to be made aware of this problem.

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The name of the rally was "unite the right" and its lead organizers was a white supremacist by the name of Jason Kessler and a collection of white supremacist groups, including the National Policy Institute and the National Socialist Movement. The rally was organized in protest of the removal of confederate monuments from public places.. and there certainly were not "very fine people" who were a part of this rally



Once again we are using the distortion that the media created this problem, and not white supremacists. This rally was organized by self identified white supremacists, and their event was the single largest white supremacists rally the has US seen since WWII. Ignoring this growing problem doesn't make it go away. People need to stop pretending that this is not a problem, and people especially need to stop making excuses for the white supremacists and pretending that they are not the problem.

No, there were not "very fine people" on both sides, and yes people need to be made aware of this problem.


Damn you're clueless.

There's people from various places and political spectrums that think removing monuments needs to be opposed. For example i'm a foreigner that moved to the US as a child, college graduate, that lived in the liberal havens of NY & CA and i'm opposed to this action. Now of course i'm not dumb enough to ever attend a protest, the analytical side of me tells me there's zilch to gain from it but i don't see why others shouldn't be able to do so. Don't confuse this with supporting supremacists or nazis because it's not.
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Aug 15 2017 10:18pm
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Damn you're clueless.

There's people from various places and political spectrums that think removing monuments needs to be opposed. For example i'm a foreigner that moved to the US as a child, college graduate, that lived in the liberal havens of NY & CA and i'm opposed to this action. Now of course i'm not dumb enough to ever attend a protest, the analytical side of me tells me there's zilch to gain from it but i don't see why others shouldn't be able to do so. Don't confuse this with supporting supremacists or nazis because it's not.



Sure, there are people of various spectrums who oppose removing monuments, however this particular rally was a organized and attended by white supremacists. They used the nazi salute, waved white supremacist flags, and chanted white supremacist slogans. This is not a matter of opinion, the very organizers of this event are self described white supremacists. These are not fine people

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The name of the rally was "unite the right" and its lead organizers was a white supremacist by the name of Jason Kessler and a collection of white supremacist groups, including the National Policy Institute and the National Socialist Movement. The rally was organized in protest of the removal of confederate monuments from public places.. and there certainly were not "very fine people" who were a part of this rally.


So this rally called "unite the right", which had the stated purpose of attempting to unite the alt-right radicals and the moderate rights, protesting an issue that moderates virtually all agree with, "this was not a broader rally"
Come now, I saw the footage, there was a wide spectrum of rightwingers on display. A totally disproportionate amount of alt-righters as it was primarily an alt-right rally, but a sizeable chunk of normies, and a handful of neo-nazis.
You know, I can look at the riots at berkeley and acknowledge that antifa were only a minority of those who showed up, and while a large number of the non-antifa lefties were hateful or violent, plenty more were standing around with their phones out like normal millenials.
Casting everyone with the same broad brush is just ignorant. Its the same nonsense as insisting every muslim is a terrorist. They're disproportionately terrorists and/or sympathizing with terrorists, not all.
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Aug 15 2017 10:22pm
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So this rally called "unite the right", which had the stated purpose of attempting to unite the alt-right radicals and the moderate rights, protesting an issue that moderates virtually all agree with, "this was not a broader rally"
Come now, I saw the footage, there was a wide spectrum of rightwingers on display. A totally disproportionate amount of alt-righters as it was primarily an alt-right rally, but a sizeable chunk of normies, and a handful of neo-nazis.
You know, I can look at the riots at berkeley and acknowledge that antifa were only a minority of those who showed up, and while a large number of the non-antifa lefties were hateful or violent, plenty more were standing around with their phones out like normal millenials.
Casting everyone with the same broad brush is just ignorant. Its the same nonsense as insisting every muslim is a terrorist. They're disproportionately terrorists and/or sympathizing with terrorists, not all.


No there wasn't, these were white supremacists


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_Soil


I don't care if you are opposed to removing a monument, if you are not a white supremacists and you stand shoulder to shoulder in unison with these people who were waving racist flags, making racist salutes, and chanting racist slogans at an event organized by self described white supremacists, then by definition you are not a fine person. No excuses

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Aug 15 2017 10:37pm
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No there wasn't, these were white supremacists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vFe0EPBKXQ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_Soil


I don't care if you are opposed to removing a monument, if you are not a white supremacists and you stand shoulder to shoulder in unison with these people who were waving racist flags, making racist salutes, and chanting racist slogans at an event organized by self described white supremacists, then by definition you are not a fine person. No excuses


I feel sorry for all the world war 2 veterans who have to see this shit going on.
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Aug 15 2017 11:03pm
you're totally getting that wrong, they aren't racists, they admire the infrastructure improvements hitler brought to germany. just autobahn lovers those neo-nazis...

same about the confederacy, they don't care about the fact that they fought (and lost) a war against america, trying to protect slavery - it's all about... you know... southern culture and stuff... has absolutely nothing to do with racism. it's just that you can't learn that from books - you need statues and monuments (most of them erected in the 20th century during times of racial tensions to glorify the confederacy) to properly appreciate the... history...

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Quote (Plaguefear @ Aug 15 2017 08:37pm)
I feel sorry for all the world war 2 veterans who have to see this shit going on.


these 90+ year olds probably have more to worry about
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