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Oct 19 2022 08:25pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 19 2022 07:21pm)
Why would Ukraine have been under a light masking regime on Feburary 3rd? :rofl:

They were never under light masking, that's just another example of Ukrop cope. Good lord, light masking against what? 95% of the Russian flights we see are them firing off air-launched cruise missiles from inside pre-referendum Russia because S-300s are too dangerous.
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Oct 19 2022 08:28pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Oct 20 2022 05:19am)
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/150002/tracking-night-lights-in-ukraine



Or as Lvivz says "light masking."

Lets be real here. Ukraine has rolling blackouts that it didn't have two weeks ago, and you're arguing that anything we see in terms of diminished light output is actually part of a strategy to hide Ukrainian towns from the night sky. A night sky that is 1) devoid of aircraft because this isn't 1942 and even 30 year old AA systems are very effective, 2) full of spy satellites that see everything, and 3) munitions that don't have cameras on them and are guided by GPS satellites.

And not only are people coming here to argue that 'actually it was dark before, you've been pwned', the same people who are making this argument were, just two days ago, arguing nearly the exact opposite case by railing against the intentional destruction of power plants and substations as a ruthless crime against humanity.

Everyone is insane and getting more insane.


It's also the end of maneuver warfare. Both sides know where each others armies are all the time, there are no dramatic flanking maneuvers or hidden reserves or anything. Two sides just lob shit at each other until one side inflicts more damage and advances, or brings an overwhelming force the enemy is fully aware of and chases after them as they retreat.

It's also the end of airpower, I think. The F-35 program cost like half a trillion dollars and I seriously doubt we'll ever see them deployed against an enemy that warrants their capabilities.


Do you think anyone reads your pointless drivels without any evidence or citations to back them up? :rofl: you are full of shit always, and believe what you want to believe which =/= reality.

Keep making your 30 rubles one comment at a time, hopefully plane lands on your Hruschovka apartment soon :D
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Oct 19 2022 08:31pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 20 Oct 2022 03:43)
Some thoughts on drones.

I think we may see the evolution of warfare in the coming years. Cheap disposable drones that can travel hundreds of miles and kamikaze themselves into targets are just too useful.

Quick comparison.

Kalibr cruise missile cost = 5mm per wiki
Shahed 136 =20k per

That means you can fire off 250 drones for the cost of one cruise missile. Let's say 80% of them are shot down by air defenses. That still means 50 drones reaching their targets. You could literally have a team of nerds that played video games all of their life in a room pilot 250 of these per raid with no human causalities inflicting tons of damage every day, given you have the supply of them.

Also effective decoys and loitering munitions. China won't be storming the beaches like Normandy, they'll be sending endless swarms of these things at Taiwan when/if that war comes.



The only solution for ukrainians is to use the same horrible weapon against russians. Toward Russian cities.
Should not be hard to make something more efficient than Iranians.

Wait...
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Oct 19 2022 08:32pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Oct 20 2022 05:25am)
They were never under light masking, that's just another example of Ukrop cope. Good lord, light masking against what? 95% of the Russian flights we see are them firing off air-launched cruise missiles from inside pre-referendum Russia because S-300s are too dangerous.


:rofl: keep seething spitting in your face every time is much more pleasurable when your head is on fire.



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Quote (Lvivz @ Oct 20 2022 05:32am)
:rofl: keep seething spitting in your face every time is much more pleasurable when your head is on fire.

https://public.flourish.studio/uploads/561800/abdc2df9-8f06-45f4-829c-8992d7641021.gif


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Oct 19 2022 08:40pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 20 Oct 2022 03:43)
Some thoughts on drones.

I think we may see the evolution of warfare in the coming years. Cheap disposable drones that can travel hundreds of miles and kamikaze themselves into targets are just too useful.

Quick comparison.

Kalibr cruise missile cost = 5mm per wiki
Shahed 136 =20k per

That means you can fire off 250 drones for the cost of one cruise missile. Let's say 80% of them are shot down by air defenses. That still means 50 drones reaching their targets. You could literally have a team of nerds that played video games all of their life in a room pilot 250 of these per raid with no human causalities inflicting tons of damage every day, given you have the supply of them.

Also effective decoys and loitering munitions. China won't be storming the beaches like Normandy, they'll be sending endless swarms of these things at Taiwan when/if that war comes.


Quote (RedFromWinter @ 20 Oct 2022 04:12)
And your just talking radio operated drone tech. Eventually they won't even need human operator and won't be vulnerable to radio jams given some base neural net and AI algorithms to fallback on when jammed. Could have autonomous kamikaze drones going all over the planet. Some can perch and charge now., or water drones etc.

I agree with both of you that drones, particularly autonomous and semi-autonomous versions, will be the next evolution of warfare.

I think this will spur two technological developments:
1.: a massive leap in jammer and anti-jamming technology
2.: the emergence of "anti-air drones" which intercept and destroy any detected enemy drones while they approach. This is a task which can be carried out by AI too. Imho, the crux will be detection.

We are definitely in for a technological arms race on this front, which should favor the West in the long run since that's where the cutting edge tech companies and researchers are. China might be able to keep up to a sufficient degree though... but definitely not Russia, Iran or any other backward country.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 19 2022 08:41pm
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Oct 19 2022 08:44pm
Quote (Lvivz @ 20 Oct 2022 04:32)
:rofl: keep seething spitting in your face every time is much more pleasurable when your head is on fire.

https://public.flourish.studio/uploads/561800/abdc2df9-8f06-45f4-829c-8992d7641021.gif


Am I the only one who thinks that Moscow looks like a gigantic tumor spreading into surrounding tissue on these maps? :lol:

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 19 2022 08:45pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 20 2022 05:40am)
I agree with both of you that drones, particularly autonomous and semi-autonomous versions, will be the next evolution of warfare.

I think this will spur two technological developments:
1.: a massive leap in jammer and anti-jamming technology
2.: the emergence of "anti-air drones" which intercept and destroy any detected enemy drones while they approach. This is a task which can be carried out by AI too. Imho, the crux will be detection.

We are definitely in for a technological arms race on this front, which should favor the West in the long run since that's where the cutting edge tech companies and researchers are. China might be able to keep up to a sufficient degree though... but definitely not Russia, Iran or any other backward country.


China doesn’t advance anything other than the perfection of theft. Haven’t seen an actual big innovation from China in the last 4 decades. While Mao was busy with genocide, China fell back at least that many decades. Now, when I see a “new” microprocessor from China, it’s just from a die that’s been reverse engineered (stolen) from one developed by Intel or AMD. I’ve seen Chinese servers that were actually just servers built by Dell or HP that have a Chinese brand name on them. Some actually just have the western brand name painted over. And on and on. China’s problem is cultural. The ChiComms have beaten the people into a culture of unquestioning obedience. It has squashed generations of individualism and independence. Innovation is not possible without the ability to think independently. To go against the flow. Every single great technological advance in that last two centuries has been the result of work by people who have been willing to take personal risks. Steve Jobs didn’t ask the government for permission to build Apple. Free market entrepreneurship has been the single greatest driver of technology in the last two centuries.

If China rid itself of communism tomorrow, in a generation or two it would be an unstoppable juggernaut of technology. The are many brilliant Chinese technologists. Sadly, the ChiComms put them to work perfecting new ways to steal technology instead of innovating.
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Oct 19 2022 08:57pm
Would not be suprised if these kind of drones (300km/h seriously) were super easy meat for laser or microwaves defense systems. The only problem is to have a coverage like meteorological stations... To defend civilians.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Oct 19 2022 09:10pm
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Oct 19 2022 11:25pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 19 2022 09:44pm)
Am I the only one who thinks that Moscow looks like a gigantic tumor spreading into surrounding tissue on these maps? :lol:


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