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Oct 19 2022 12:28pm
When did I ever say that? Sanctions on Iran are especially brutal and murderous, they kill a lot of people.

But what effect will new sanctions have? America has already imposed maximalist sanctions on Iran. What are they gonna do, ban Iranians from having oxygen to breathe?
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Oct 19 2022 12:39pm
Like, the fact is that a big reason so many countries of the world aren't on your side is because they look at who else is on your side and it's all the people who have been stomping all over the world since the dawn of imperialism. They see what's happening clearly because they're used to being on the other side of it.

You wanna come here and act like sanctioning Iran is good because they're helping Russia, but you have it backwards. Iran is helping Russia because for 70 years America and it's vassals has been couping, dominating, proxy-warring, assassinating and sanctioning Iran.

And Russia hasn't.

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Like, the fact is that a big reason so many countries of the world aren't on your side is because they look at who else is on your side and it's all the people who have been stomping all over the world since the dawn of imperialism. They see what's happening clearly because they're used to being on the other side of it.

You wanna come here and act like sanctioning Iran is good because they're helping Russia, but you have it backwards. Iran is helping Russia because for 70 years America and it's vassals has been couping, dominating, proxy-warring, assassinating and sanctioning Iran.

And Russia hasn't.


cry all you want about sanctions, we could have just as easily marched into the country, bombed the ever living fuck out of it, killed all of the leaders, failed at making a new govt, then left 10 years later with half of the country still without power or clean water. that's what we did elsewhere in the middle east, iran should count itself lucky.
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Like, the fact is that a big reason so many countries of the world aren't on your side is because they look at who else is on your side and it's all the people who have been stomping all over the world since the dawn of imperialism. They see what's happening clearly because they're used to being on the other side of it.

You wanna come here and act like sanctioning Iran is good because they're helping Russia, but you have it backwards. Iran is helping Russia because for 70 years America and it's vassals has been couping, dominating, proxy-warring, assassinating and sanctioning Iran.

And Russia hasn't.


Russia has been barbaricly invading all of the eastern Europe for the past 80+ years, killing protestors en mass, assassinating pro-democratic leaders, poisoning its opponents including politicians who went against it.

All of civilized world is on Ukraines side, all Russia has got in term of "friends" are Belarus, Iran and some other banana republics like Euratria and Venezuela (where people hate their corrupt mafia leader)
so seethe all you want mad hatter



thats what world thinks about Russia lol

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You realise Iraq had the fourth largest army in the world and it was decimated in days during the first gulf war?
U.S vs China wouldn't even be close. It won't even be close for at least 50 years.


25-50 years, with the caveat that in the intervening time and during that time they are actually in active conflict (to get experience).

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You're probably right, I do stand by the statement that America has virtually zero experience with a serious enemy, though, which is how this all started.


You mean the first gulf war when America was able to slowly over the course of a year build up a huge force right on Iraq's border, fighting against AA tech decades out of date, an enemy without GPS?

That one?

lol


The US has been active for decades now, and elements of its armed forces have a degree of experience far in excess of other countries. a bit like how Ukraine and Russia by the end of all this will have armed forces with a degree of experience well above what they had before going into this.

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25-50 years, with the caveat that in the intervening time and during that time they are actually in active conflict (to get experience).



The US has been active for decades now, and elements of its armed forces have a degree of experience far in excess of other countries. a bit like how Ukraine and Russia by the end of all this will have armed forces with a degree of experience well above what they had before going into this.


By end all of this Russia won't have an army, as it will be a different country altogether if at all. Dictatorship such as the one in Russia that has no answer to what life will be like after Putin means only one thing - great collapse as every lever of control is centralized around Putin. When vertical power structures fall they fall rapidly hard.
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cry all you want about sanctions, we could have just as easily marched into the country, bombed the ever living fuck out of it, killed all of the leaders, failed at making a new govt, then left 10 years later with half of the country still without power or clean water. that's what we did elsewhere in the middle east, iran should count itself lucky.

No, you couldn't do that. Go google "Millennium Challenge 2002".

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All of civilized world is on Ukraines side

Indeed, everyone in "the garden", so to speak.

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That's what countries think about the referendums when asked. And just two of those abstentions alone are more population than everyone in the EU and North America times 3.

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The US has been active for decades now, and elements of its armed forces have a degree of experience far in excess of other countries. a bit like how Ukraine and Russia by the end of all this will have armed forces with a degree of experience well above what they had before going into this.

The US has decades of experience fighting against enemies with much inferior weaponry, much weaker economies and oftentimes without anything that can really be called "an army".

The US has exactly as much experience fighting an army like China's or Russia's as anyone else - zero.

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No, you couldn't do that. Go google "Millennium Challenge 2002".


Indeed, everyone in "the garden", so to speak.


That's what countries think about the referendums when asked.


The US has decades of experience fighting against enemies with much inferior weaponry, much weaker economies and oftentimes without anything that can really be called "an army".

The US has exactly as much experience fighting an army like China's or Russia's as anyone else - zero.


Wrong, don't even know what the vote that was for, stating bs per usual. US would decimate Russia in mere hours.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/07/russia-suspended-un-human-rights-council-ukraine

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Wrong, don't even know what the vote that was for, stating bs per usual. US would decimate Russia in mere hours.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/07/russia-suspended-un-human-rights-council-ukraine

Doesn't matter, every vote looks exactly the same on all these issues. Just two of those abstentions alone are more population than everyone in the EU and North America combined times 3.

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Doesn't matter,



Says who? You? Who are you? A nobody lol
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