LOL

You don't have a chance against rice farmers.

To be fair, the only American carriers were sunk when the opponent had technological and military operational parity, as in the first half year of the Pacific theater when the IJN was at its absolute peak. After Midway, our carriers went largely unscathed, save for a few escort carriers. Now, these attributes between US and China are way more imbalanced in the US favor

Still, NetflixAdaptationWidow is wildly incorrect in just about everything he's claimed in the last few pages

This post was edited by Thebarba on Oct 18 2022 06:51pm

china has and could have a lot of soldiers.

tech wise, USA is vastly superior. it's not even a comparison.

nukes wise, nobody wins.

China doesn't possess the submarines to get past the US submarine protection of carriers. Missile will be the tool.

A major nuclear war will result in 5 billion deaths over 2 years due to nuclear winter and the attendant crop failures. There'd be so much ash in the atmosphere that they estimate a 16 degree centigrade drop in global temperatures.

You think so? I'm sure America has some important qualitative advancements over Chinese subs both in stealth and detection, but why are we assuming a total wash in favour of America, exactly? It's not like Chinese subs are based off of u-boats, and they do have a lot of them.

This post was edited by kusotarre1 on Oct 18 2022 08:44pm

Well, back to Ukraine...

It's been hard to know what's going on exactly over the past week on the front line. Everyone is focusing on the campaign against electricity, understandably, but over the longer view of a few days some things are coming clear back in the world of artillery, machine guns and armor.

It seems the Svatovo-Kreminna line has not just stabilized, but started to shift back into Russian initiative. They've taken a couple small villages that wouldn't be worth mentioning except that it's a turn around from their weeks of methodical retreat in the face of the Ukrainian counteroffensive.

Bakhmut and the area around it continues to slowly grind on, with Russia taking just a smidgeon more territory every day. This is a very important area that opens up possibilities for offensives in multiple directions for the Russians, and Ukraine isn't giving it up. Some Russian channels talk about AFU troops pulling back, but others say that this is just troop rotations, which I think is certainly true.

Everything seems stable in Zaporozhye.

In Kherson, hard to see what's happening. The AFU made some advancements a week ago north of Kherson city, but that has stabilized. Ukrainian channels made a big deal of the mayor of Kherson asking for help evacuating civilians from the city, but that ended up being something like 300 people leaving according to Russian sources. It makes sense for people to leave, the city seems to be a potential site for a big upcoming AFO offensive. Today another 'propaganda attack' from Ukraine claiming Russians are fleeing the city, but I see little proof of this.

However, things are a even weirder here. A few days ago, the AFU made a pretty strong push north of the city that was quite disastrous, lots of casualties with video proof. At the time, Ukrainian channels and lots of Russian channels said this was a recon in force probe (attacking with limited forces to force the Russians to reveal positions and hence potential weaknesses in their lines to make a bigger commitment from Ukraine more effective). However, since then there has been two days of nothing, negating any intel learned from this as Russian forces reposition and re-entrench. So what gives? During this entire weeks-long Ukrainian counter-offensive, Russians have been claiming that they are inflicting much, much higher casualties on Ukrainian forces than they are receiving. Indeed, there are endless videos of Ukrainian equipment and soldiers being shelled as they progress through the wide-open fields of Ukraine's former territory. I've also over the past two days seen claims that Ukrainian conscripts and territorial defense units, as well as Western 'mercenaries', are refusing orders to advance on Russian positions. That said, these same Russian channels have been claiming that this would happen since May, and it clearly wasn't true then, in retrospect. So, did it finally come true, or is this more wish-casting? Does it explain the failures in the far north and far south of the front line, and if not what does?

Monkey retards?

The point is the US have combat experience far beyond China.

It's not even a comparison.

Why do people think there would be a land war with armies? You think the US would be naive enough to attempt an invasion of China?

Clown. Any large scale conflict instantly wipes out a huge portion of Chinas export economy.
Then comes the naval blockade.

So then Beijing is on a timer. Breakout or deal with a starving horde.
Those millions of land troops will be nothing but other mouths to feed.

I'll try to be objective and say China would have a chance at breaking a naval blockade. Of course they would. However the chance is very slim.

Claiming the US is overconfident military is hilarious. It's been top of the military hegemony for literally decades. Since the cold war "ended" the US spent estimated 16 trillion on defence. In the same time China spent 3 trillion.

Doubt it. Just -5° global would be like the last glacial era. Whole north hemisphere would see no life for decades

This post was edited by Melatonina on Oct 19 2022 02:20am

It wouldn't be a total wash. The Chinese diesel boats are generally quiet, and with a little luck + skill, can slip past a screen - similar to what a Swedish boat captain did in a training exercise vs the USN. But the Chinese boats are not as good as the Swedish boats. And as Stalin liked to say; quantity has a quality all its own.



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