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Oct 18 2022 12:55pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 18 2022 07:39pm)
Being reliable vs unreliable doesn't happen in a vacuum it's dependent on something no? They're not squeezing Europe's energy just because they are evil, they are doing it as a response to Europe's support for Ukraine in the war. You can't separate the two. Seems like an obvious thing but largely glossed over point.


I am inclined to agree with what you're implying, whilst not overtly interested in why Russia is an unreliable supplier of energy for Europe going forward. Simply stating that it is the case.

Some of the implications of that, I suspect are -
In the short term, a very challenging and expensive time for European consumers. Record profits for energy companies as wholesale gas prices rise.
In the long term, a loss of revenue to Russia in supplying the EU. Probably a shift to supplying Asia and or relying on manipulating the price of their commodities. In an attempt to replenish revenue lost in supplying Europe.

I don't have the expertise to compare the EU and for example China or India as potential markets for Russian gas. I would assume that the EU is an established net importer. While China is a developing market with huge potential. Whilst infrastructure is not currently in place.
I wouldn't doubt Russia or China's ability to install a network eg. pipeline from Urals to the Chinese market. It would also be naive to underestimate the expense and timescale of such an undertaking.
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Oct 18 2022 01:14pm
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I don't have the expertise to compare the EU and for example China or India as potential markets for Russian gas. I would assume that the EU is an established net importer. While China is a developing market with huge potential. Whilst infrastructure is not currently in place.
I wouldn't doubt Russia or China's ability to install a network eg. pipeline from Urals to the Chinese market. It would also be naive to underestimate the expense and timescale of such an undertaking.


Building pipelines to China which have a similar capacity to the ones which used to supply Europe is difficult, expensive and will take time, but it's generally feasible. What is not practical, however, is building pipelines from Russia to India since such pipelines would necessarily have to go through either Pakistan or China, which are India's main rivals.
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Oct 18 2022 01:16pm
Quote (Lvivz @ Oct 18 2022 02:52pm)
What happens to Russian soldiers after Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuK-dzIBEmQ


Idk why you and others but mainly you post this type of stuff. Does it bring you joy to see another human maimed, suffering or dead? Is this reason to be happy and celebrate? It doesn't matter if it's an Ukrainian, Russian, Arab, American whatever. These people are just like you and I, difference is we were blessed to be born or raised in a part of the world where that's not us suffering. I look at that guy and I feel bad for him and would feel bad for every other ethnicity because it's sad. He'll never experience life to the fullest. Why laugh or make jest of that? What if he was Ukrainian, or your friend or brother?
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Oct 18 2022 01:18pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 18 2022 10:16pm)
Idk why you and others but mainly you post this type of stuff. Does it bring you joy to see another human maimed, suffering or dead? Is this reason to be happy and celebrate? It doesn't matter if it's an Ukrainian, Russian, Arab, American whatever. These people are just like you and I, difference is we were blessed to be born or raised in a part of the world where that's not us suffering. I look at that guy and I feel bad for him and would feel bad for every other ethnicity because it's sad. He'll never experience life to the fullest. Why laugh or make jest of that? What if he was Ukrainian, or your friend or brother?


Ukrainians don't invade other sovereign countires on false pretenses. Always good to see karma at work. For all we know he could be a child rapist+marauder as many russian soldiers are. Feel bad all you want.

If Ukraine invaded Moldova or Belarus or w.e I would want nothing to do with the government in place, and most likely get rid of my passport. This animal decided to go be a tool of putins regime. so good riddance to his limbs, he got what he deserved.

This post was edited by Lvivz on Oct 18 2022 01:20pm
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Oct 18 2022 01:32pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Oct 18 2022 01:51pm)
Because they aren't at war, yet, genius. In a shooting war, the exclusion areas look like this:

https://blog.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/12722150-0-image-a-24_1556219295439.jpg


Good luck "excluding" submarines.
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Oct 18 2022 01:49pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 18 2022 12:32pm)
Good luck "excluding" submarines.

Yep, America has a huge advantage there.

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Idk why you and others but mainly you post this type of stuff. Does it bring you joy to see another human maimed, suffering or dead? Is this reason to be happy and celebrate? It doesn't matter if it's an Ukrainian, Russian, Arab, American whatever. These people are just like you and I, difference is we were blessed to be born or raised in a part of the world where that's not us suffering. I look at that guy and I feel bad for him and would feel bad for every other ethnicity because it's sad. He'll never experience life to the fullest. Why laugh or make jest of that? What if he was Ukrainian, or your friend or brother?

It's because he's a fascist, obviously. These people love death, cruelty and humiliation, which is why when they're on the front lines they can't help but take trophies and disgusting videos. Why on the back lines they tape people to poles and wipe concentrated disinfectant on their faces. Why when they're online they praise other people's murders and humiliations.

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Yep, America has a huge advantage there.


It's because he's a fascist, obviously. These people love death, cruelty and humiliation, which is why when they're on the front lines they can't help but take trophies and disgusting videos. Why on the back lines they tape people to poles and wipe concentrated disinfectant on their faces. Why when they're online they praise other people's murders and humiliations.


Coming from dirty russian fascist :lol:
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Oct 18 2022 02:00pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Oct 18 2022 02:49pm)
Yep, America has a huge advantage there.


The realistic take here is that those subs need to re-load torpedoes, which is time consuming, and unsafe from afloat support vessels. So China can quite simply overwhelm Taiwanese defenses due to their immense shipbuilding advantage.
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Oct 18 2022 02:53pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 18 2022 01:00pm)
The realistic take here is that those subs need to re-load torpedoes, which is time consuming, and unsafe from afloat support vessels. So China can quite simply overwhelm Taiwanese defenses due to their immense shipbuilding advantage.

The realistic take is that America understands from it's many unsuccessful wargames against China that it cannot 'win' against China, nor can it flood Taiwan with weapons as it's doing in Ukraine. Therefore, it will fall back on the only thing it still can do: sanctions and endless insufferable speeches about morality and democracy and whatever other stuff only vicious white people believe.

And in that sort of conflict, China has political and material advantages that America is nowhere remotely capable of competing with. Indeed, the political dysfunctions of America are such that it drastically overvalues it's own abilities and has spent decades pruning all the realists out of public life, thus ensuring that it will pursue a course of action with regard to China that it doomed to lose. Kissinger, Brzezinski and Kennan are gone or ignored. All America has now is an endless stream of Blinken and Nuland clones pouring out of every university that can find two Bush Jr admin flunkies to give lectures.
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The realistic take is that America understands from it's many unsuccessful wargames against China that it cannot 'win' against China, nor can it flood Taiwan with weapons as it's doing in Ukraine. Therefore, it will fall back on the only thing it still can do: sanctions and endless insufferable speeches about morality and democracy and whatever other stuff only vicious white people believe.

And in that sort of conflict, China has political and material advantages that America is nowhere remotely capable of competing with. Indeed, the political dysfunctions of America are such that it drastically overvalues it's own abilities and has spent decades pruning all the realists out of public life, thus ensuring that it will pursue a course of action with regard to China that it doomed to lose. Kissinger, Brzezinski and Kennan are gone or ignored. All America has now is an endless stream of Blinken and Nuland clones pouring out of every university that can find two Bush Jr admin flunkies to give lectures.


Anybody who says any other country could materially compete with the U.S. military can be immediately dismissed.

In an all out war situation the U.S. could literally solo all of China, India, Japan, and Russia and still have facilities left over to handle whatever other situations come up.

Our military power is overwhelmingly dominant on this planet. I don't like that, I'd like us to waste less money on it, but god damn we have a strong military to show for all our cash.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Oct 18 2022 02:56pm
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