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Oct 18 2022 06:26am
Quote (ferdia @ Oct 18 2022 02:19pm)
this is an isolated incident to my mind. Has Ukraine been bombing sites in mainland Russia since March of this year ? I am not seeing this anywhere. Just to put it into context:

This is a video where it is discussed to Bomb Russia as a "strategy" to end the war. I completely disagree with this point but it is at odds with your assertions that this has been happening since march. The reason why the US has not provided Ukraine with longer range weapons is because they fear this will encourage Ukraine to strike directly at Russia, and that this may escalate the war beyond a point which the US could control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZUi6fcnsBw

Bless, video can not be viewed, but the sentiment persists.


what a surprise, avenged-like on video saying crazy dumb things. lol!
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Oct 18 2022 06:26am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 18 Oct 2022 15:24)
Do you think it's representative, maybe because there are more people in number in the areas you are talking about ? Are some people able to bypass the mobilization with corruption or position ?
What i saw on some website news here is that people from distant lands (ie east of russia) were also involved, very poor regions of russia.


They were able to flee to say Kazakhstan and Georgia and settle there.
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Oct 18 2022 06:30am
Quote (Goomshill @ 18 Oct 2022 14:18)
The americanism you're looking for is "If you don't love it, leave it", and don't forget to call me a pinko commie and insinuate I'm gay
I see you're new to this whole hoo-rah jingoism thing but trust me we Americans have got a huge head start, we were doing this while you were sharpening your white flags


I never said anything like that, stop lying and seek help please.

The reality is that on hundreds pages in this topic we have parrots singing the "but US did too" song constantly, hundreds of times, in order to avoid the in-topic problematic: Russian invasion, war crimes, etc.

Deforming reality doesnt work here. Just saying: you will never win a this game with me gooshill, you should know that since the time.
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Oct 18 2022 06:30am
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Oct 17 2022 08:06pm)
And another attempt! What's in this one?

First, A general corroboration that as time went on, the numbers increased at a somewhat linear rate, as I used in my back-of-the-envelope calculation in the original post.

Then, a supposition that they must be undercounting deaths by a 40-60% amount. What is the supposition based on? Absolutely nothing that is mentioned. The fact is, there are common exchanges and returns of bodies and POWs throughout this war. Just today there was a big POW exchange.

An alternative explanation: The BBC realized that their count of Russian dead closely matched the official Russian numbers, and so they panicked and did what the BBC routinely does: make shit up to make Russia (or China, or Iran, or whoever else) look worse.

But even if it was true, and I don't think it is, that would put the Russian official count much closer to the real number than even the UK's official numbers, let alone the wildly inflated Ukrainian numbers.


Just maybe, their supposition is based on their experience gleaned from finding the 5700 they did confirm? Maybe not everyone uses social media to announce the deaths? Maybe Russian peasants are sometimes too poor to afford a newspaper announcement after having to spring for burial expenses?

Common exchanges of bodies??? Where in the fuck do you come up with this cockamamie bullshit?

You act as if Ukraine is grossly inflating their casualty estimates (which I'm sure they are to some extent), when they can't possibly go out and discern whether the KIA is Russian army proper, or a militia member, Chechen, Wagner mercenary, or Syrian. We already know the orcs are throwing non-Russians into the meat grinder first.
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Oct 18 2022 06:31am
Quote (ferdia @ Oct 18 2022 07:19am)
this is an isolated incident to my mind. Has Ukraine been bombing sites in mainland Russia since March of this year ? I am not seeing this anywhere. Just to put it into context:

This is a video where it is discussed to Bomb Russia as a "strategy" to end the war. I completely disagree with this point but it is at odds with your assertions that this has been happening since march. The reason why the US has not provided Ukraine with longer range weapons is because they fear this will encourage Ukraine to strike directly at Russia, and that this may escalate the war beyond a point which the US could control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZUi6fcnsBw


Bless, video can not be viewed, but the sentiment persists.



Ukraine allegedly bombed a Russian oil depot in Belgorod back in April. That's all I've heard. Perhaps tactical strikes not as a strategy

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Oct 18 2022 06:31am
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Oct 18 2022 06:33am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 18 2022 07:30am)
I never said anything like that, stop lying and seek help please.


Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 18 2022 06:47am)
Take arms, family: go live in Russia and go to defend it from the nazis :thumbsup:


I guess frogs have less than 43 minutes of temporal memory, perhaps they eat so much cheese they molt away their skin every half an hour and their brain plops out and they grow a new one.
Would explain their military tactics
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Oct 18 2022 06:34am
Quote (Norlander @ 18 Oct 2022 14:26)
They were able to flee to say Kazakhstan and Georgia and settle there.


What's terrible precisely here, is that the ones unable to pay for costly tickets, and usually having a family to feed, had to stay.
And these guys will be send to the front ? Wtf, it's double suicide.
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Oct 18 2022 06:37am
Quote (Goomshill @ 18 Oct 2022 14:33)
I guess frogs have less than 43 minutes of temporal memory, perhaps they eat so much cheese they molt away their skin every half an hour and their brain plops out and they grow a new one.
Would explain their military tactics


this is faked quoting and insults.

Here's your shit:

Quote (Goomshill @ 18 Oct 2022 14:18)
don't forget to call me a pinko commie and insinuate I'm gay


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Oct 18 2022 06:38am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 18 Oct 2022 15:34)
What's terrible precisely here, is that the ones unable to pay for costly tickets, and usually having a family to feed, had to stay.
And these guys will be send to the front ? Wtf, it's double suicide.


Some of them are already sent and even sent back.
Reminds me of a joke: Buy kabob and assemble a kitten.
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Oct 18 2022 06:41am
Quote (Norlander @ Oct 18 2022 07:19am)
Not true, "partial" mobilization mostly affected citizens of high-populated areas, ie Moscow and St Petersburg and their oblasts respectively.


The word in Western media is that the mobilization greatly skews to non ethnic-Russian oblasts. Known KIAs are disproportionately Dagestani and Buryitian.
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