Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 5 2021 09:19am)

Asians surely did a lot of things right, but I think there are additional factors at play. Their average is artificially lifted by the large percentage of highly educated H-1B visa holders among this racial group, who also happen to disproportionately work and live in the highest income regions of the country (Silicon Valley, Seattle and such). Generally speaking, Asians tended to settle disproportionately in regions which have been on the winning side of the economic development of recent decades - the Bay Area, greater LA, Seattle, Atlanta, Houston, the Acela corridor.

By contrast, hispanics are often coming for farm jobs and thus living in stagnant rural areas while poor blacks and whites are often times stuck in the deprived place of their birth due to family ties or their house.


Tldr: for a fair assessment of how well or poorly the ethnic groups have been doing, the metric has to be normalized for geographic patterns and the resulting gap in opportunity.

Quote (EndlessSky @ May 5 2021 09:28am)

Safety nets are the problem, they need to be dismantled. It rings true in basically every area it touches.

I don't see a reason for most of them other than disability and unemployment.

And the age for SS should be 72-80.

Quote (thesnipa @ May 5 2021 11:37am)

you wouldn't know because we've never seen safety nets and a lack of red tape. u can't isolate a factor when its a constant across the board.

the closest we can come is states that are deep red, with large urban areas, with democrat run safety nets implemented on a city level, and red tape removed on a state level. and see how the urban poorer black population is doing there.

on a guess i'd say somewhere in Texas like Austin or Dallas, which even in it's roughest areas and when controlled for cartel violence pails in comparison to areas like Chicago, NYC, LA, etc. but i havent dove into the data.

Quote (Skinned @ May 5 2021 10:39am)

If you can remove the cartels you can remove the gangs in Chiraq, NYC, etc. Its the same phenomenon.

Quote (thesnipa @ May 5 2021 11:40am)

not at all what im getting at but ok?

im comparing blacks in different regions, and my cartel point was that comparing citywide violent crime rates in NYC vs Dallas is spurious because of cartel violence which is largely non-black.

Quote (Skinned @ May 5 2021 10:51am)

Ok I missed the point then.

Cincinnati is a democratic run city in a red state maybe a good case study.

Quote (thesnipa @ May 5 2021 11:40am)

not at all what im getting at but ok?

im comparing blacks in different regions, and my cartel point was that comparing citywide violent crime rates in NYC vs Dallas is spurious because of cartel violence which is largely non-black.

Quote (EndlessSky @ May 5 2021 11:12am)

Its ironic because the cartels in California are basically exterminating the blacks.

No one cares for some reason.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 5 2021 09:19am)

Asians surely did a lot of things right, but I think there are additional factors at play. Their average is artificially lifted by the large percentage of highly educated H-1B visa holders among this racial group, who also happen to disproportionately work and live in the highest income regions of the country (Silicon Valley, Seattle and such). Generally speaking, Asians tended to settle disproportionately in regions which have been on the winning side of the economic development of recent decades - the Bay Area, greater LA, Seattle, Atlanta, Houston, the Acela corridor.

By contrast, hispanics are often coming for farm jobs and thus living in stagnant rural areas while poor blacks and whites are often times stuck in the deprived place of their birth due to family ties or their house.


Tldr: for a fair assessment of how well or poorly the ethnic groups have been doing, the metric has to be normalized for geographic patterns and the resulting gap in opportunity.