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Jan 11 2020 01:54pm
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i don't get what you're mad about. your most progressive candidates are just as corrupt as everyone else. the goal-post never moved, you're just ignoring most facts listed. you point out my 1 opinion, and ignore all the supporting evidence.
you're getting defensive because you're hoping 1 link you provide will counter everything. (it doesn't)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/aoc-bernie-sanders-vice-president-vp-pick-2020-campaign-a9260641.html
ignoring how terrible AOC actually is, is a huge downfall to the left. no matter how left you may be. i've given some examples of how 2-faced she is.
ignoring how much power she has already obtained in politics, is even more ridiculous.

Sander's i can get behind a bit more because he was screwed by the DNC and is continuing to be screwed by the DNC. (although not by funding issues) he is running as independent though under the Dem caucus if i understand correctly.
he is a Senator though, so i am requesting what bills he has sponsored over it. why was he voted as Senator? unlike Trump, he should have congressional record to support his platform.

reading through the link you provided, i can get behind some of the general ideas. he's had numerous years to put this into bill form though if this is his main issue.


funny how i almost mistook you for borderline reasonable once, expecting you operated on at least a basic set of facts and truths, unlike so many right wingers these days. uncritically going with the lazy 'everyone is equally corrupt' talking point, however, just because the corporate puppets you support told you so, is insanity, and clear proof you're not. i guess this is just the sort of 'argument' someone has to resort to in order to justify their own corrupt side...

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/031213-CUAmendmentFactSheet1.pdf



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Jan 11 2020 02:37pm
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funny how i almost mistook you for borderline reasonable once, expecting you operated on at least a basic set of facts and truths, unlike so many right wingers these days. uncritically going with the lazy 'everyone is equally corrupt' talking point, however, just because the corporate puppets you support told you so, is insanity, and clear proof you're not. i guess this is just the sort of 'argument' someone has to resort to in order to justify their own corrupt side...

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/031213-CUAmendmentFactSheet1.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig

i believe the only thing we have ever agreed on in any post, was Hilary being "establishment". let's see how Bernie's doing again.
here's the bill you're referring to, and Bernie Sander's did sponsor this bil.
https://teddeutch.house.gov/uploadedfiles/analysis_of_democracy_is_for_people_amendment.pdf
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The Democracy is for People Amendment
Congressman Ted Deutch (FL-21) & Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT)

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2. This Section, upon ratification of the amendment, would immediately prevent all those
who are not natural persons from spending in American elections. No longer could
campaign donations or expenditures be made by:
- Multi-national or domestic business corporations
- Other for-profit entities, such as limited liability companies, partnerships, trusts,
and associations
- Nonprofit, tax-exempt 501(c)(4) social welfare organizations like Citizens United
- 501(c)(6) business and professional associations, such as chambers of commerce
- 501(c)(5) labor unions
- Individuals who are not US citizens, unless authorized under this amendment (e.g.
permanent US residents)
All forms of organization would be placed on the same footing as 501(c)(3) charities
and be prohibited from intervention in the campaigns of candidates for public office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Revolution
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Our Revolution (commonly known by its initials OR) is an American progressive political action organization spun out of Senator Bernie Sanders's 2016 presidential campaign to continue its work.[2] The organization's mission is to educate voters about issues, get people involved in the political process, and work to organize and elect progressive candidates.[3][4] Our Revolution is also the title of a book by Sanders released in November 2016.[5]

https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/09/bernie-sanders-our-revolution/
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Sanders founded Our Revolution, a 501(c)(4) nonprofit group that can accept unlimited contributions without disclosing the identities of its donors, in 2016, and one campaign finance expert believes the group’s work to help Sanders achieve his presidential aspirations could be violating the law.

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“After the 2016 election, Senator Bernie Sanders founded Our Revolution to build a powerful grassroots movement to challenge corporate control of our government,” Our Revolution Executive Director Joseph Geevarghese wrote in a fundraising message to supporters in December seeking donations to “continue to do the deep organizing necessary to elect President Bernie Sanders.”


https://www.sanders.senate.gov/legislation/issue/campaign-finance
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More recently, the Court’s McCutcheon decision did away with limits on how much individual donors may give to candidates and political organizations during a two-year federal election cycle. Thanks to these disastrous rulings, the wealthiest individuals, corporations, and special interests are free to donate almost unlimited amounts to super PACs to influence elections and ensure elected officials are beholden to their policy interests. In fact, $4 billion was spent during the last election cycle, a record for midterm elections. Even more troubling, 70% of the money came from large donors who gave $200 or more.


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Fundraising Details
Campaign Committee Outside Groups Combined
Total Raised $228,164,501 $951,938 $229,116,439
Total Spent $222,709,340 $1,245,504 $223,954,844
Cash on Hand $5,473,008 -$293,566 $5,179,442
Debts $449,409 - -
Date of Report December 31, 2016 November 27, 2017

Source of Funds

Small Individual Contributions (< $200) $134,669,942 57.70%
Large Contributions $97,145,068 41.62%
Other $1,576,978 0.68%
Candidate self-financing $0 0.00%
Federal Funds $0 0.00%

he is guilty of everything he speaks against. i only see the 1 bill he voted on so far, and he is guilty of what that bill was trying to prevent "after" signing it.

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Jan 11 2020 02:38pm
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Jan 13 2020 10:18am
Cory Booker is officially off the island.
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Jan 13 2020 10:29am
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Cory Booker is officially off the island.



lmao another case of the “voters being racist”
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Jan 13 2020 10:33am
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Jan 11 2020 03:37pm)
i believe the only thing we have ever agreed on in any post, was Hilary being "establishment". let's see how Bernie's doing again.
here's the bill you're referring to, and Bernie Sander's did sponsor this bil.
https://teddeutch.house.gov/uploadedfiles/analysis_of_democracy_is_for_people_amendment.pdf


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Revolution

https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/09/bernie-sanders-our-revolution/



https://www.sanders.senate.gov/legislation/issue/campaign-finance



he is guilty of everything he speaks against. i only see the 1 bill he voted on so far, and he is guilty of what that bill was trying to prevent "after" signing it.


So he should play the game that is to make the world a better place when he is able to do so?

The only thing lacking here is your object permanence lol.
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Jan 13 2020 10:57am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 13 2020 10:18am)
Cory Booker is officially off the island.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1216755243712643073?s=21
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Jan 13 2020 11:07am
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lmao

how do the same two weirdo decrepit odious losers end up as the top replies to every single one of this tweets? that tiedrich wierdo (looks like the kind of person society tells children and women to stay away from) and gutterman (looks like an abuser of something that is missing several chromosomes and his tweeting pattern proves it)
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Jan 13 2020 12:10pm
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lmao

how do the same two weirdo decrepit odious losers end up as the top replies to every single one of this tweets? that tiedrich wierdo (looks like the kind of person society tells children and women to stay away from) and gutterman (looks like an abuser of something that is missing several chromosomes and his tweeting pattern proves it)


first reply is typical TDS. Trump's being funny and he gets the "this is like mean girls" response. probably from a loony lefty that takes to twitter with trembling fingers to opine on the latest word Trump pronounces slightly wrong, or the latest screencap of Trump's hair blowing in the wind.
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Jan 13 2020 12:31pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 13 Jan 2020 13:10)
first reply is typical TDS. Trump's being funny and he gets the "this is like mean girls" response. probably from a loony lefty that takes to twitter with trembling fingers to opine on the latest word Trump pronounces slightly wrong, or the latest screencap of Trump's hair blowing in the wind.

ah yes the 'drumpf is meanie lmfao but he's orange!!' krew

in other news..shots i mean arrows fired:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-meeting/index.html
Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources say
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