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Oct 17 2022 05:34pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Oct 17 2022 05:59pm)
Cope and seethe. Russia doesn't lie about their deaths because when you're winning you don't need to.


There's nothing to cope about with a hypocritical guy who lies to himself.
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Oct 17 2022 05:38pm
There are people who think Russia is winning? They've failed literally every objective, been pushed back to their borders, and had to surendur MASSIVE amounts of vital equipment during the retreats.

I can only imagine what kind of fantasy world these people live in.
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Oct 17 2022 05:39pm
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All in all, Russia's military position is tenuous at best. They have lost the initiative and are basically scrambling to somehow hang in there until winter (THE staple of Russian strategy since 1812).


The ultimate question. Can you invade Russia in the winter if you used to be Russia?
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Oct 17 2022 05:42pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 17 2022 06:13pm)
Since early April, Russian forces have captured a grand total of 2 cities (Mariupol and Lysychansk), both of which they had to bomb into the absolute ground before taking over their ruins. Since early July, they haven't made any noteworthy gains anymore while steadily losing ground. Meanwhile, they are wasting $1m-a-piece cruise missiles to shell residential areas and parking lots across Ukraine so that they can appease their wounded ego.

The Iranian drones have proven effective so far, but that's mostly because Ukraine wasn't prepared for them. With jammers and fresh western anti-air arriving every day, this tactical advantage will probably remain short-lived. Also, the Iranian regime has plenty of trouble at home, they don't look like the most reliable supplier right now...

Russia's 300k draft has breathed new life into Russia's forces, but that, too, seems short-lived. The fresh recruits are undertrained, underequipped and undermotivated. Furthermore, even this very limited draft sparked strong pushback in Russia, this is a card that Putin probably cannot play again without risking serious domestic unrest.



All in all, Russia's military position is tenuous at best. They have lost the initiative and are basically scrambling to somehow hang in there until winter (THE staple of Russian strategy since 1812).


There was Sievierodonetsk and Kherson as well. For now.
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Oct 17 2022 05:46pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 17 2022 07:38pm)
There are people who think America won? They've failed literally every objective, been pushed back to their borders, and had to surendur MASSIVE amounts of vital equipment during the retreats.

I can only imagine what kind of fantasy world these people live in.


FIFY! Good work btw, I give it to you, you managed to get me to log during my lunch break at the diner. To quote that text of your and put a beautiful picture representing the scenery.



Now the goal is to not log again for the next 6 months while i enjoy my vacations but if you keep talking bullshit like this, it'll be hard ngl. Always fun to quote the shit you post.
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FIFY! Good work btw, I give it to you, you managed to get me to log during my lunch break at the diner. To quote that text of your and put a beautiful picture representing the scenery.

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/Afghanistan4.gif

Now the goal is to not log again for the next 6 months while i enjoy my vacations but if you keep talking bullshit like this, it'll be hard ngl. Always fun to quote the shit you post.


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Oct 17 2022 06:00pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 17 2022 04:13pm)
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You a few hours ago: Russia is definitely lying about their deaths, it's so obvious!

Me: This in depth investigation by the BBC where they track Russian social media and visit actual graveyards in Russia corroborates Russia's numbers. I predict you will not respond to this in any substantive way.

You, in response to the above: Change topic to some other thing, as predicted.

As I said in my response, this is predictable because every time I actually challenge you on anything that would require you to do research or think critically, you change the topic or refuse to contend with the actual numbers put forth by journalists and researchers. Deaths counts, Russian military production, European industrial metrics.
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Oct 17 2022 06:05pm
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You a few hours ago: Russia is definitely lying about their deaths, it's so obvious!

Me: This in depth investigation by the BBC where they track Russian social media and visit actual graveyards in Russia corroborates Russia's numbers. I predict you will not respond to this in any substantive way.

You, in response to the above: Change topic to some other thing, as predicted.

As I said in my response, this is predictable because every time I actually challenge you on anything that would require you to do research or think critically, you change the topic or refuse to contend with the actual numbers put forth by journalists and researchers. Deaths counts, Russian military production, European industrial metrics.


yeah, russian needs another 300 000 men because russia lost under 6000 men. lmao.

and btw, it's not only the 60 000 men russia lost, it also lost probably over 100 000 men maimed and similar, alive but worthless.
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Oct 17 2022 06:18pm
The reason you need to make these sort of "logical" arguments - where you can begin the work injecting all sorts of subjective interpretations of how you think this war is progressing - is because you don't any ability to deal with the fact that the BBC, who hates Russia and even in their reporting here went to some pretty absurd lengths to make misleading graphics, generally corroborates the Russian numbers for their war dead.

There are five of you: , , , and , and not one of you is able to actually deal with the BBC coming up with numbers similar to the official Russian numbers. You should all get in a group chat together and see if combined you can come up with a coherent response.
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Oct 17 2022 06:23pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Oct 17 2022 07:18pm)
The reason you need to make these sort of "logical" arguments - where you can begin the work injecting all sorts of subjective interpretations of how you think this war is progressing - is because you don't any ability to deal with the fact that the BBC, who hates Russia and even in their reporting here went to some pretty absurd lengths to make misleading graphics, generally corroborates the Russian numbers for their war dead.

There are five of you: ^SanduLungu, ^Black Xistenz, ^Santara, ^NetflixAdaptationWidow and ^Prox1m1ty, and not one of you is able to actually deal with the BBC coming up with numbers similar to the official Russian numbers. You should all get in a group chat together and see if combined you can come up with a coherent response.


I never even interacted with the BBC part of this conversation. I just made one remark about how Russia is so obviously losing.

The number of dead is probably the least important factor. Russia is not able to supply its troops, meanwhile Ukraine is receiving a ton of aid and is able to supply its troops adequately for combat, and as a result of these things Russia has been pushed back almost to its border.
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