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Oct 17 2022 11:55am
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Oct 17 2022 06:44pm)
And of course once the links come out you shrink back into what you must imagine are clever insults.

Myrotvorets is a kill list. It crosses people's pictures out and writes "liquidated" across them when they are killed. You load it up and the first thing you see is a wall of corpses. The defense that it's not a kill list may hold up in a Western court of "justice", but every single person who looks at it know what it is.

^Ferdia, you are generally pro-Ukraine, are you going to deny that this is a kill list?

And of course, it's an irrefutable fact that young teenagers are on here for blog or social media posts. Roger Waters is on this list, lol.


I have never seen this Myrotvorets therefore I cannot comment on it one way or the other. sec while i (briefly!) read about it. I do note that most groups that I would largely be aligned with in thinking, believe that it should be removed. does this answer the question?

also, i would say like most normal people i am generally pro-ukrainian. i would envisage that normal russians (nevermind all of western europe and the wider world) would be pro-ukrainian before all this happened and before they were fed w/e they get from their national tv.

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Yes ok, on that note : please accept this as my apology to you. such tasteless comments should have no home here or anywhere.


No need to apologize, its a political forum and I can respect people having different opinions however when it gets to the point where every time Russia gets its teeth kicked in "its successful retreat" or "redeployment" or constant referring to Ukrainians as nazis with only proof being same 10-20 (some photo-shopped pictures) plastered by russian propaganda out of context, it must be denounced on the spot.

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I have never seen this Myrotvorets therefore I cannot comment on it one way or the other. but I do note that most groups that I would largely be aligned with in thinking, believe that it should be removed. does this answer the question?

also, i would say like most normal people i am generally pro-ukrainian. i would envisage that normal russians would be pro-ukrainian before all this happened and before they were fed w/e they get from their national tv.

The link to the webpage is on the right side of the wikipedia page, go open it up. I'm not going to post the link because the first thing you see when you open it is a wall of rotting corpses. "I cannot comment" is a bit of a copout when you're instead apologizing to a guy who is repeatedly lying about the existence of this kill list and/or that there are young teenage girls on it.

And no, it's not "normal" to side with Ukraine in this war it's "Western" to side with Ukraine. The vast bulk of humanity is ambivalent at best to this conflict, and large portions of humanity views the West as the primary instigator of the conflict.
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Oct 17 2022 12:04pm
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The link to the webpage is on the right side of the wikipedia page, go open it up. I'm not going to post the link because the first thing you see when you open it is a wall of rotting corpses. "I cannot comment" is a bit of a copout when you're instead apologizing to a guy who is repeatedly lying about the existence of this kill list and/or that there are young teenage girls on it.

And no, it's not "normal" to side with Ukraine in this war it's "Western" to side with Ukraine. The vast bulk of humanity is ambivalent at best to this conflict, and large portions of humanity views the West as the primary instigator of the conflict.


I can only apologise for the things I say and do, I cannot apologise for others. If this is difficult to understand *shrugs* there is not much I can do.
On (cursory) review I dont see it as a Kill List, but rather a "we would not mind if all these people died", and for sure they knowingly try to make life for these people very difficult (from the brief reading I have done on it).

your questions to me a quite baseless. I dont know enough about the subject matter to comment firmly one way or the other. Thats like me asking you a chess problem "but I dont play chess ferdia". regardless of whether you play chess or not I trust the anology is understood.

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And of course once the links come out you shrink back into what you must imagine are clever insults.

Myrotvorets is a kill list. It crosses people's pictures out and writes "liquidated" across them when they are killed. You load it up and the first thing you see is a wall of corpses. The defense that it's not a kill list may hold up in a Western court of "justice", but every single person who looks at it know what it is.

^Ferdia, you are generally pro-Ukraine, are you going to deny that this is a kill list?

And of course, it's an irrefutable fact that young teenagers are on here for blog or social media posts. Roger Waters is on this list, lol.


A simple example. Say Lvivz added me to a kill list next to chopdix. And then when I eventually chock on matzoh he puts a fancy cross over my name. Does it mean he killed me or anyone killed me for him?
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The "8 years" guy

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perhaps he cant post in the topic ? it is only in recent months that i have discovered that not everyone can post here, and some ppl can be suspended for months. my suspensions have never been longer then 4 hours. i think ? (to be clear: for posting an Irish Statebroader link and for denouncing racism).

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I have never seen this Myrotvorets therefore I cannot comment on it one way or the other. sec while i (briefly!) read about it. I do note that most groups that I would largely be aligned with in thinking, believe that it should be removed. does this answer the question?

also, i would say like most normal people i am generally pro-ukrainian. i would envisage that normal russians (nevermind all of western europe and the wider world) would be pro-ukrainian before all this happened and before they were fed w/e they get from their national tv.


its mostly a troll/get a reaction board that was irrelevant until very recently, riding hype waves, even Tymoschenko was on it.
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Quote (ferdia @ Oct 17 2022 09:08pm)
perhaps he cant post in the topic ? it is only in recent months that i have discovered that not everyone can post here, and some ppl can be suspended for months. my suspensions have never been longer then 4 hours. i think ? (to be clear: for posting an Irish Statebroader link and for denouncing racism).


he won't be posting here for next 30 days ;)
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