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The issue isn't demoralization, really. I'm not even sure that hardship demoralizes people. In most cases throughout history, hardship strengthens people's resolve to resist. Being attacked in general always results in people flocking to whoever their leaders are.

You're generalizing things when you say Russia is launching missiles "into the heart of Ukraine." They are launching missiles and drones into power plants, transformer stations, rail facilities, decision making centers for some parts of the Kiev regime, and things closely related to these things.

The front line of a conflict depends on the rear. It needs transport networks and energy to transport people and materiel to the front. It needs resources (human and material) to be spent advancing the war effort, not spent repairing continually accruing damage to infrastructure. It needs factories running to create more weapons and ammunition, clothing and equipment. It needs hospitals operating at sufficient capacity to return experienced but injured troops back to the front. A hundred other smaller things, all of which contribute to a war effort.

Ukraine is in a weird place here because the bulk of it's war fighting capacity is being provided externally, which excuses it from a lot of the normal rules. But not transport, not the basic functioning of a modern society.


The "current narrative" in the West is always about some enemy or another. I'm old enough to remember quite well the coverage of the Iraq War, and even in March of 2003 the discussion was not about "American terrorism" anywhere but Democracy Now and Counterpunch.

Just to add:


Wildly overstated. Things were tense there a month ago during the first Kharkov counteroffensive, but surely you can see by now that the lines stabilized quite well.

Remains to be seen what the future holds, but I think in retrospect what we saw was the much under-manned Russian lines pulling back in a controlled manner, and inflicting much higher casualties on the Ukrainians than they received themselves. I know you (and Santara) are in denial about the scale of the disparity, but my reading of it is different. Recent Ukrainian attempts at further pushes have been failures all along the front with the exception of another small land gain near Kherson. Meanwhile, Russia has been making several successful pushes, both up north near Kreminna and in the center in Bakhmut. The situation as it stands now is that the lines had already stabilized over the last two weeks, Russian reinforcements from their mobilization are strengthening their lines, and this all coincides with devastating attacks on the Ukrainian rear, which up until last week Russia was refusing to do.

Dispute that all you wish, but I think the measurable parts that can't really be disputed (but ofc can change!) is that the lines are generally stable and Russia has stepped further into the available space for escalation. And yes, they have ways of escalating even further.

found an english video for you, hes talking about same

i dont disagree with this but other people reading your statement might struggle with joining the dots, or as evidenced, will bandy "whataboutism" comments to the effect "so what if X country did or does this as well, the narrative right now relates to russia.

ultimately russia has been cast as the villian here (yes, like Iraq was previously). the western world from a media perspective has done very little to provide a balanced view, which is also reflected somewhat in the thread.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 17 2022 11:04am

Yeh what you think doesn't matter though, you just make up shit you go and make yourself look like a total fool
mr. I-can-post Ukrainians boiling Russians alive lol what a waste of cells

Santara, unless he plays guitar

where did he post that ?



omg oops.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 17 2022 11:05am

It means nuclear war ofc, go hide in your dog house as Goomshill is doing right now. Take phone with you, we will lyk when its safe to get out.

Lets see what comes out officially from Putin the next 24 hours.

also:



thanks you for posting this.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 17 2022 11:08am