Quote (Ghot @ May 31 2018 08:37pm)

It started out to prove Trump colluded with Russia.

Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 1 2018 11:09am)

What is the argument that he did?

The president has the right to fire Comey, Comey's duplicity and serial leaking nonwithstanding.

Quote (IceMage @ Jun 2 2018 04:04pm)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/02/us/politics/trump-lawyers-memo-mueller-subpoena.html

NYT obtained a 20-page letter sent from the president's lawyers to the special counsel in January 2018.

Why does the failing, fake news NYT always have the scoops?

Quote (Plaquelord @ 2 Jun 2018 20:56)

impeach trump he made some tweets

Quote (Ghot @ 1 Jun 2018 02:37)

It started out to prove Trump colluded with Russia.

Quote

By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C.
§§ 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and
management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the
Russian govemmenfs efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as
follows:
(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed t() serve as Specia] Counsel for the United States
Department of Justice.
(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).
(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
(d) Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are
applicable to the Special Counsel.

Quote

Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted.

Quote

(b)Additional jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel concludes that additional jurisdiction beyond that specified in his or her original jurisdiction is necessary in order to fully investigate and resolve the matters assigned, or to investigate new matters that come to light in the course of his or her investigation, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General, who will determine whether to include the additional matters within the Special Counsel's jurisdiction or assign them elsewhere.

(c)Civil and administrative jurisdiction. If in the course of his or her investigation the Special Counsel determines that administrative remedies, civil sanctions or other governmental action outside the criminal justice system might be appropriate, he or she shall consult with the Attorney General with respect to the appropriate component to take any necessary action. A Special Counsel shall not have civil or administrative authority unless specifically granted such jurisdiction by the Attorney General.

Quote (Scaly @ Mar 27 2017 01:41pm)

#CrookedDonny

Quote (Ghot @ 3 Jun 2018 04:10)

By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C.
§§ 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and
management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the
Russian govemmenfs efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as
follows:
(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed t() serve as Specia] Counsel for the United States
Department of Justice.
(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).
(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
(d) Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are
applicable to the Special Counsel.


Like I said.


/e




:/

Quote (Scaly @ Jun 3 2018 12:17am)

What you said was that they set out to prove collusion between Trump and Russia. That's entirely different from investigating possible links between those associated with the Trump campaign and Russia and any other matters that may arise from that investigation.

Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 2 2018 07:54pm)

The letter is just all the same stuff retrodden since everyone knows the legal arguments involved already.
How the NYT got the memo seems like a pretty big story. If its from Trump's team, thats one thing. If its from Mueller's team, that's something else entirely.

but we've already heard plenty about the lawyerly slapfight over executive privilege and the presidential authority arguments from trumps team for half a year. Its not like its news that they aren't just rolling over on the question of whether a subpoena can be issued. Are there any new details in there?