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Oct 14 2022 04:31am
Quote (ferdia @ Oct 14 2022 01:00pm)
racist and personal attacks. can you try to use arguments rather then personal attacks in the discourse.


Guy is a livid anti-Semite fascist, who came into the thread supporting genocide and fascism at its core. Go read his prior posts.
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Oct 14 2022 04:39am
Quote (Ironfister @ Oct 14 2022 01:29pm)
Merkel already says lasting peace in Europe can be reached only with Russia’s involvement.
Germany/France dont consider countries between them and Russia as equal partners and give a special status and rights to Russia.
They would gladly freeze the conflict now, so that Russia get a chance to rebuild their army and attack again.
Not a good idea, a terrible idea.
Fortunately mr Biden is USA president and will not let that happen and keep "selling" weapons to Ukraine.
For me the minimum plan for permanent peace is move Russians back into pre24feb borders, accepting any new conquests would mean helping and rewarding Russia for their decision to attack on feb24.
If we reward Russians, they will attack, that's how reward system works. And the next time they will be possibly better prepared to war.
Russians did a terrible job so far in the war, but they can possibly improve in the future. They might be alcoholics, they might be villains and terrorists, but they arent stupid people and should not be underestimated.


Improve how? Their best and experienced soldiers got ferilized already and are now serving as top quality fertilizer in our land, when war is over agricultural export will explode.
Iranian drones about to be rendered obsolete as well with Israel and USA providing tech/expertise as we speak.
Only thing Russia now has going for itself are missile strikes from its own territory. Like a giant ogre throwing feces from its cave because its face got mashed in when it stepped out.

This post was edited by Lvivz on Oct 14 2022 04:40am
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Oct 14 2022 05:16am
Quote (Bananii @ Oct 14 2022 05:01am)
bro i wanted to hear it from lvivz goddamn.....

i never said i like the way russia is dealing with that situiation, but its the only way and 100% justified.
now listen boys this is my point if you cant read between the lines:
I DONT SUPPORT NATO
NATO = HARAM AND SHOULD BE DELETED
I FUCKIN HATE WHAT WESTERN WORLD IS DOING TO POOR COUNTRYS

that makes me a fascist?

you guys are so fuckin stupid you should get banned from this forum

santara, go to bed old man


It's almost sunrise over here. My day is just starting.

Saying they're 100% "justified" IS supporting them.

Quote (ferdia @ Oct 14 2022 04:58am)
this is not logical.


Russia is controlled by a dictator and a bunch of oligarchs, and does not exist for the betterment of its citizens. Political opposition and critics are jailed or poisoned or killed. In every sense of the word, Russia is a fascist state.

This post was edited by Santara on Oct 14 2022 05:17am
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Oct 14 2022 05:19am
Quote (Lvivz @ 14 Oct 2022 12:39)
Improve how? Their best and experienced soldiers got ferilized already and are now serving as top quality fertilizer in our land, when war is over agricultural export will explode.
Iranian drones about to be rendered obsolete as well with Israel and USA providing tech/expertise as we speak.
Only thing Russia now has going for itself are missile strikes from its own territory. Like a giant ogre throwing feces from its cave because its face got mashed in when it stepped out.


Never underestimate your enemy my friend.
Russia is still a big country, that has money from their resources, and China/India still trade with them.
They also have some citizens who can be mobilized to rebuild their troops.
They underestimated Ukraine, they thought you guys wont really fight back, they were obviously wrong.
But we cant expect them to make the same mistakes over and over again.
We dont really know how well will their economy and country work in new conditions, but its better to prepare for the worse scenario, while keeping your fingers crossed for the best one.
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Oct 14 2022 05:29am
Quote (Ironfister @ Oct 14 2022 02:19pm)
Never underestimate your enemy my friend.
Russia is still a big country, that has money from their resources, and China/India still trade with them.
They also have some citizens who can be mobilized to rebuild their troops.
They underestimated Ukraine, they thought you guys wont really fight back, they were obviously wrong.
But we cant expect them to make the same mistakes over and over again.
We dont really know how well will their economy and country work in new conditions, but its better to prepare for the worse scenario, while keeping your fingers crossed for the best one.


Well you know this could of been said in march maybe early april, during winter months mobile war machines need 40% more maintenance 40% more break downs, Russia is scraping the bottom of the barrel begging Belarus for its tanks and Iran for drones.
If Russia had true capability to do something through conventional means it would of done so by now, 300,000 disorganized drunkards with tampons won't be able to do much on the ground. Our positions in the east around Dnipropetrovsk and Poltava are rock solid.

Not sure if you have seen this, but russians are building world war 2 style trench defenses, 2 lines
O -------------- O -------------- O
--------X----------------X-----------


Exactly the same defensive lines that failed against German blitzkrieg and led to massacre/complete surrounding of hundreads of thousands of Soviet troops
and that was 80 years ago, can't make this shit up, its like a time machine when you study russian military tactics in this war. Well with the likes of Shoigu at the helm, its not surprising, I would be better general than him.

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Oct 14 2022 05:33am
Quote (Santara @ 14 Oct 2022 13:16)


Russia is controlled by a dictator and a bunch of oligarchs, and does not exist for the betterment of its citizens. Political opposition and critics are jailed or poisoned or killed. In every sense of the word, Russia is a fascist state.


Plus an attempt to attack other country and genocide there.
Plus missile and artillery terrorists attack on cities, aimed at terrorizing civilians and not the military targets.

Fascists, terrorists and warcriminals.
Of course ordinary Russians are also victims of their leaders and propaganda, but are partially responsible too.
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Oct 14 2022 06:04am
Quote (Ironfister @ Oct 14 2022 01:33pm)
Plus an attempt to attack other country and genocide there.
Plus missile and artillery terrorists attack on cities, aimed at terrorizing civilians and not the military targets.

Fascists, terrorists and warcriminals.
Of course ordinary Russians are also victims of their leaders and propaganda, but are partially responsible too.



oh almost thought you talk about the US

imagine why in the western world anything else then capitalistic neoliberalism is muted/silenced? you know why? no, you cant see the forest throgh all those trees..
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Oct 14 2022 06:10am
Quote (Bananii @ Oct 14 2022 03:04pm)
oh almost thought you talk about the US

^santara imagine why in the western world anything else then capitalistic neoliberalism is muted/silenced? you know why? no, you cant see the forest throgh all those trees..


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Oct 14 2022 06:28am
Quote (Bananii @ Oct 14 2022 07:04am)
oh almost thought you talk about the US

^santara imagine why in the western world anything else then capitalistic neoliberalism is muted/silenced? you know why? no, you cant see the forest throgh all those trees..




/e I notice that you continue to dodge the point that Russia is waging a war over resources. Interesting.

This post was edited by Santara on Oct 14 2022 06:29am
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Oct 14 2022 06:29am
How many dead and wounded Russians will it take to resecure 1/3 of a country? Are the resupply forces of RU ready for extended winter war? We just get our first snowfall this morning, winter is here. More armor gonna get stuck soon.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Oct 14 2022 06:30am
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