bland bread wont be enough to get the taste of that stuff out. im adventurous even with seafood but f that.

It was the Soviets that won the war really, they inflicted 80% of German casualties on the Eastern front, and diverted most German resources away from other theatres of war

If America put everything into a war against Germany, they could have overcome them, but they only sent 2m troops to Europe. The Wehrmacht had an army of 13m troops

The French were busy surrendering, and the UK had a force half the size of the Wehrmacht that was more adept in the air and navy than boots on the ground

The Soviets did the heavy lifting. They occupied the vast majority of German divisions, so the troops we did face were fighting with few reserves. Sending 2 soldiers with 1 rifle was also not the norm, they manufactured 37+ million Mosin-Nagants.

your statement is so good that i will let you away with the 37+ million (noting as i understand it thats the totality they made since inception 1800's). your signature quote is also very very astute.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 10 2022 04:13pm

while it's true that the red army did much of the dirty work / heavy lifting, snipa is also partly right in that soviet military and political leadership had proven incredibly reckless to incompetent many times, and that without foreign (predominantly american) supplies and gear, as well as the unusually harsh winter '41 / '42, nazi germany could have achieved many of its campaign goals (despite poor timing and insufficient preparation) on the eastern front, maybe even leading to a collapse of the soviet union. the last part is obviously speculation though.

still, it's not exclusively incompetence and a general disregard for the life of the common soldier that contributed to the high losses of the soviet army. they faced the majority of the reich's elite and veteran troops, and later on particularly fierce resistance out of fear of (retaliatory) cruelties.

russia is using weapons that vaporize human bodies wth , why isn’t these weapons in call of duty lmao but for real wtf is that

This post was edited by TerpyKind on Mar 10 2022 04:30pm

they also mined agreed upon evacuation routes, bombed a maternity ward, looted civilians, and committed a bunch of other blatant war crimes.
this is only going to get worse the longer they are met with heavy resistance and can't capture major cities. indiscriminate bombing and cruelty against innocent people will only ramp up.

That's fair, I was being hasty.



Those orders to ban retreat cut both ways, to be fair, though with the Germans, it didn't become a serious strategic problem until Stalingrad.

as a fellow student of history i'm sure you're aware that soviet leadership incompetence and disregard for life extended well beyond stalin's infamous order #270. i'm referring to internal plotting and intrigues within the generals, severe command structure and communication flaws, reckless and ultimately costly operations for marginal (symbolic) gain, literally throwing men into the meat grinder...

again, this is not to say that the red army was entirely ineffective and incompetent throughout the whole war, or anything along those lines. no, they had some fantastic military equipment at their disposal, generally brave troops, and some outright brilliant military minds (marshal zhukov for example, a true genius) - i'm just saying that their blood toll was significantly higher than it could have been with better leadership.

Daily headlines:

Ireland: No progress made during Russia-Ukraine talks
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Russia: Putin calls on West not to blame Russia for surge in energy prices and also Russia does not want war but will ensure independence from West, Lavrov stresses
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I dont see any peaceful resolution. The talks between Ukraine and Russia will not resolve anything, the two sides are way too far apart.
China's voice will probably go unheard for several months, actually, no one is going to listen to China (since they are considered baddies as well, after all your either with us or our enemy, thats the herd mind right now).

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 10 2022 05:16pm