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Aug 2 2023 10:31pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 3 2023 01:24am)
It's nothing to US, but a lot for Israel, a small country.

It doesn't matter though. The fact is US sends Israel money to spend. And it doesn't look like US gets much out of it. Come to think of it, why can't Israel fund its own healthcare system? Why should US tax money go towards taking care of foreign nationals?



I bet you are one of those, "Israel is US' greatest ally in the Middle East" people.


Why not send them 100x as much so every jew could be be ultra rich?

They do get something out of it though, I already said, they use them to counter Iran. That may become less important over time or more so, which will affect how much is sent. Israel probably could fund their own Healthcare system, but why would they if they don't have to? Why should US tax money go towards the million other things they spend it on? In the governments view, it is to further their interests.

Why do you bet I'm one of those? I don't have any love for Israel and I think it's creation was one of the biggest geopolitical blunders in history. That doesn't mean it doesn't benefit the US.

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Aug 2 2023 10:33pm
Quote (El1te @ Aug 2 2023 09:30pm)
Literally most of modern science was pioneered by Jewish people, they wrote the Old Testament and were the first of God's people, I mean this isn't a hard question to answer, the real question is what haven't the Jews done for us? We owe literally everything to the Jewish people

The entire region is their homeland that they developed and that belongs to them - it is only because of the Roman genocide against Simon bar Kokhba's Kingdom that it took 2000 years for them to return.

And nearly everyone had denied them that prior to the establishment of the state of Israel. The Islamic countries for one hate them and kept them out for centuries


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Aug 2 2023 10:36pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 3 Aug 2023 12:27)
Why? What have Jews done for you?



Why do you say that?



And who denies them that?


For me, and I want to be specific, Israel. I have a rather neutral stance on them.
They trained our Singapore military when we first started in 1968. And Relations between us have been extremely cordial for more than half a century, which is influenced by similar geopolitical state of affairs, being relatively small states surrounded by larger hostile ( Muslim) Neighbours.
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Aug 2 2023 10:37pm
Quote (El1te @ Aug 2 2023 09:30pm)
Literally most of modern science was pioneered by Jewish people,


Absolutely false.

Most of modern science was pioneered by White, Christian men.

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they wrote the Old Testament and were the first of God's people,


Are you Christian?


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they laid out the principles of how to live a moral life, I mean this isn't a hard question to answer, the real question is what haven't the Jews done for us? We owe literally everything to the Jewish people


I don't think you are white. I think you are a Jew. And btw, don't bother sending me a picture of you. You make me sick.


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And nearly everyone had denied them that prior to the establishment of the state of Israel. The Islamic countries for one hate them and kept them out for centuries


And maybe Islamic countries hate them for a reason. Just like why Hitler hated them. In fact, almost every nation that had a Jewish presence in it hated them. Have you asked yourself why?
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Aug 2 2023 10:42pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Aug 2 2023 09:31pm)
Why not send them 100x as much so every jew could be be ultra rich?

They do get something out of it though, I already said, they use them to counter Iran. That may become less important over time or more so, which will affect how much is sent.


If countering Iran becomes less important, money would still go to Israel. And it's because all this aid money is not to fight Iran. It is to help Jews.

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Israel probably could fund their own Healthcare system, but why would they if they don't have to?


This is exactly what a parasite would think.


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Why should US tax money go towards the million other things they spend it on? In the governments view, it is to further their interests.


That's their excuse for sending money to benefit another country. And people like you gobble it up.

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Why do you bet I'm one of those? I don't have any love for Israel and I think it's creation was one of the biggest geopolitical blunders in history. That doesn't mean it doesn't benefit the US.


What has Israel done for US?
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Aug 2 2023 10:42pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 2 2023 09:37pm)
Absolutely false.

Most of modern science was pioneered by White, Christian men.



Are you Christian?




I don't think you are white. I think you are a Jew. And btw, don't bother sending me a picture of you. You make me sick.




And maybe Islamic countries hate them for a reason. Just like why Hitler hated them. In fact, almost every nation that had a Jewish presence in it hated them. Have you asked yourself why?


I'm literally a 100% Nordic/Northern British blue eyed Protestant, Hitler would have worshipped the ground I walk on - our culture is near the top in terms of achievement and excellence but we still fall behind Jewish excellency. Hell the only person who was better than me at Chemistry in university was an Orthodox Jew.

I mean just look at the Talmud. The Talmud takes years and years of study to even understand and no one wants to put the work in

People hate the Jews purely out of envy. They are envious of their excellency and great achievement. They are the opposite of degenerate, they study all day and live frugal lives.

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Aug 2 2023 10:49pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 3 2023 01:42am)
If countering Iran becomes less important, money would still go to Israel. And it's because all this aid money is not to fight Iran. It is to help Jews.



This is exactly what a parasite would think.




That's their excuse for sending money to benefit another country. And people like you gobble it up.



What has Israel done for US?


I mean maybe, but the US sends "aid" to tons of countries, it wouldn't be that strange lol. The money is not to "fight iran" it is to create a counterbalance to it in the region, that is more complicated then just sending weapons.

Don't you use free healthcare in Canada? I mean it definitely sucks but if you use it does that make you a parasite?

Their excuse for it is that they care about the Jewish people and blah blah blah, the real reason is Iran. Who are people like me? Anyone that isn't really angry Jewish people exist? You seem crazy emotional about this

I already said what Israel does for the US, I don't think you understand why it is important though.

Have you ever actually met a Jewish person? What did they do to you to make you hate them so much?
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Aug 2 2023 10:52pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Aug 2 2023 09:31pm)
Why not send them 100x as much so every jew could be be ultra rich?

They do get something out of it though, I already said, they use them to counter Iran. That may become less important over time or more so, which will affect how much is sent. Israel probably could fund their own Healthcare system, but why would they if they don't have to? Why should US tax money go towards the million other things they spend it on? In the governments view, it is to further their interests.

Why do you bet I'm one of those? I don't have any love for Israel and I think it's creation was one of the biggest geopolitical blunders in history. That doesn't mean it doesn't benefit the US.


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this USA influence were none existed. as a side note the reinstatement of the jewish nation full filled prophecy. who has ever heard of such a thing a nation displaced thousands of years get their nation back?" some crazy proof for scripture.
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Aug 2 2023 10:53pm
Quote (El1te @ Aug 2 2023 09:42pm)
I'm literally a 100% Nordic/Northern British blue eyed Protestant - our culture is near the top in terms of achievement and excellence but we still fall behind Jewish excellency.


Why do you think Jews have accomplished more than White Christians?

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Hell the only person who was better than me at Chemistry in university was an Orthodox Jew.


"Because one Jewish person beat me in school once, that means the entire race of Jews is superior".

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I mean just look at the Talmud. The Talmud takes years and years of study to even understand and no one wants to put the work in


Your ancestors have created outstanding works too, why don't you acknowledge that at all? Why do you feel the need to worship a foreign people?

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People hate the Jews purely out of envy.


Lol, you can't seriously believe that. This is a line that Jews use on the rest of humanity and you fell for it completely.

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They are envious of their excellency and great achievement.


I can sort of get it if some people are jealous of others but it's incredibly unlikely that they can whip up genocidal fury against an entire people because "look, those Jews are so much better than we are! Let's get them!!!"

You need to ask yourself why you believe such dumb things.



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Aug 2 2023 10:55pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 3 Aug 2023 12:49)
I mean maybe, but the US sends "aid" to tons of countries, it wouldn't be that strange lol. The money is not to "fight iran" it is to create a counterbalance to it in the region, that is more complicated then just sending weapons.

Don't you use free healthcare in Canada? I mean it definitely sucks but if you use it does that make you a parasite?

Their excuse for it is that they care about the Jewish people and blah blah blah, the real reason is Iran. Who are people like me? Anyone that isn't really angry Jewish people exist? You seem crazy emotional about this

I already said what Israel does for the US, I don't think you understand why it is important though.

Have you ever actually met a Jewish person? What did they do to you to make you hate them so much?


I just want to add something here, sometimes if you meet someone of an ethnic / Religion that is rather extreme you tend to label the entire race because of that one or two incident.

It happens and it is what it is. There is really nothing much we can do about it which is also the reason why I prefer the Real Politik way of conversing. Discussing religion is quite dicey in all occasions.
But we do take a piss out of Muslims every now and then.

But growing up in country that have heaps of Muslims surrounding me in Singapore and Malaysia, they are actually pretty normal and nice people to be fair. At least in my experience and in my region.
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