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Oct 10 2022 12:44pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 10 2022 09:30pm)
Russia had a large stockpile of guided missiles at the beginning of this war. They used up a lot of them during the first months, then slowed down. Why is that? Is it because Russia suddenly developed restraint in the middle of an ongoing war? Or could it be that they decided to stop shelling parking lots and barns with high-value missiles as their stockpiles ran low?

They of course still had some missiles in stock and also have an arms industry that can produce new missiles over time (at a much lower pace than their initial usage rate though), so it's not a contradiction at all that they used some of their precious guided missiles today to answer the highly symbolic attack on the Crimean bridge.




Allied bombers could lay waste to German and Japanese cities because they enjoyed unchecked air supremacy. If Russia had air supremacy, they would definitely have used it to support the advances of their ground troops. The fact that they did not proves without a shadow of a doubt that they failed to establish air supremacy in Ukraine, which also implies that they can't just casually send bombers deep into Ukrainian territory, for example toward Kyiv.

In Mariupol, the battlefield was surrounded by Russia-controlled territory, and they still didn't use helicopters or bombers as far as I know. Also, they needed weeks to bomb Mariupol (and Sieverodonetsk/Lyssichantsk) into the ground, it took a lot more effort than just "flicking a switch". Kyiv is magnitudes larger, much farther away and more heavily defended. I genuinely doubt that Russia had enough long-range missiles to flatten it from afar if they wanted to. (Nukes are of course a different story.)


" Allied bombers could lay waste to German and Japanese cities because they enjoyed unchecked air supremacy. "

This is just not true.
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Oct 10 2022 12:46pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 10 2022 12:44pm)
Once again, you're projecting.

https://i.imgur.com/NHeiuYm.jpeg


Whatever you need to tell yourself to remain an ignorant fool for the rest of your sad life
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Oct 10 2022 12:58pm
Lol just heard about the strikes Russia did in response to the Crimean bridge bombing.

Ukraine truly is a terrorist state. About time Russia started showing its teeth in response to these disgusting and pathetic criminal provocations!
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Oct 10 2022 01:00pm
>ukraine is a terrorist state because russia bombed civilian areas of a population center
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Oct 10 2022 01:04pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 10 2022 10:00pm)
>ukraine is a terrorist state because russia bombed civilian areas of a population center


They put explosives which they blew up in a civilian truck, with the driver being unaware. Pretty bad shit.

Anyway, who cares, in war all is fair.
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Oct 10 2022 01:08pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Oct 10 2022 01:46pm)
Whatever you need to tell yourself to remain an ignorant fool for the rest of your sad life


Lol. "Ignorant" because I don't buy into your raging case of propaganda. Whatever, huylo.

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Oct 10 2022 01:58pm)
Lol just heard about the strikes Russia did in response to the Crimean bridge bombing.

Ukraine truly is a terrorist state. About time Russia started showing its teeth in response to these disgusting and pathetic criminal provocations!


Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 10 2022 02:00pm)
>ukraine is a terrorist state because russia bombed civilian areas of a population center


The cognitive dissonance is deafening.
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Oct 10 2022 01:11pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 10 2022 01:00pm)
>ukraine is a terrorist state because russia bombed civilian areas of a population center


Russia could have blown up Ukraine's energy infrastructure on day one and everyone knows it. If this were a US war then those strikes Russia did yesterday would have been happening every single day since day one of the conflict.

Sorry but there has to be consequences for the criminal actions of Zelensky, his gang, and their US handlers. If you don't like it, too bad
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Oct 10 2022 01:36pm
Quote (ownyaah @ 10 Oct 2022 20:44)
" Allied bombers could lay waste to German and Japanese cities because they enjoyed unchecked air supremacy. "

This is just not true.


It is. The degree of air superiority the allies enjoyed during the final 12-16 months of WW2 are the textbook example for the concept of "total air control/air supremacy". Of course there were still some stationary antiair guns around strategic targets like arms factories, but they were inconsequential and couldn't do anything to stop the allied bomber fleets. During this phase of the war, the allies enjoyed as much air supremacy as one can realistically attain in any kind of modern war.
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Oct 10 2022 01:58pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Oct 10 2022 03:11pm)
Russia could have blown up Ukraine's energy infrastructure on day one and everyone knows it. If this were a US war then those strikes Russia did yesterday would have been happening every single day since day one of the conflict.

Sorry but there has to be consequences for the criminal actions of Zelensky, his gang, and their US handlers. If you don't like it, too bad


Honest non brainwashed take.
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Oct 10 2022 02:04pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 10 2022 11:30am)
Russia had a large stockpile of guided missiles at the beginning of this war. They used up a lot of them during the first months, then slowed down. Why is that? Is it because Russia suddenly developed restraint in the middle of an ongoing war? Or could it be that they decided to stop shelling parking lots and barns with high-value missiles as their stockpiles ran low?

They of course still had some missiles in stock and also have an arms industry that can produce new missiles over time (at a much lower pace than their initial usage rate though), so it's not a contradiction at all that they used some of their precious guided missiles today to answer the highly symbolic attack on the Crimean bridge.

lol, this is so insane.

If they weren't holding back from hitting dual use infrastructure before, then why didn't their first few months of missile attacks target the power plants that they hit this morning? Why were they "shelling parking lots and barns with high value missiles" from their limited stockpiles when there were power plants, SBU offices and water pumps to hit?

The kind of takes you come to expect from a guy who is one degree away from thanking America for cleansing Europe of useless steel production.

This post was edited by kusotarre1 on Oct 10 2022 02:09pm
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