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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 28 2021 07:25pm)
Pelosi nominating one of the Republicans on the committee in the first place already shows what a sham it is. McCarthy should have been the one appointing all Republicans to the committee. Selecting Cheney of all people is just the icing on the cake. Do you seriously think that if the Senate GOP had played along, Pelosi would not have nominated Cheney (and potentially Kinzinger), and that she would have accepted Banks and Jordan? Do you think that Schumer would have refrained from nominating Romney to one of the GOP slots on the Senate side of the committee?

Technically, there is no hard proof against your theory of the case that all of these Democrat partisan moves were only in response to the big bad evil GOP refusing to cooperate. Fine. But imho, one has to be really credulous to believe that any kind of GOP cooperation short of literal public self-flagellation (with a spiked scourge) could have stopped Democrats from turning this committee into a tribunal to advance their partisan goals.


Or... they could have participated with equal numbers which would have stopped the committee from turning into a tribunal to advance their partisan goals.

Like, that's why Democrats wanted to make it bipartisan.

To prevent that from happening which gives the committee legitimacy.

Duh.

You're bending over backwards to give Republicans what they want. They didn't participate for the exact purpose of pointing to the committee and labeling it as partisan hackery. That's not something to explain away based on their political interests. That's something to condemn. They're putting party over country and over finding the truth. If the shoe were on the other foot you would be roundly condemning the actions of Democrats.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 28 2021 06:33pm
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Or... they could have participated with equal numbers which would have stopped the committee from turning into a tribunal to advance their partisan goals.

Like, that's why they wanted to make it bipartisan.

To prevent that from happening.

Duh.


Was this the proposal which was on the table? Equal number of committee seats for Democrats and Republicans, Pelosi does not have any more control or veto powers than McCarthy, no conclusion/verdict/report can be issued without Republican buy-in? If that's really the case, then I was wrong and apologize. Sounds extremely doubtful though.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 28 2021 07:36pm)
Was this the proposal which was on the table? Equal number of committee seats for Democrats and Republicans, Pelosi does not have any more control or veto powers than McCarthy, no conclusion/verdict/report can be issued without Republican buy-in? If that's really the case, then I was wrong and apologize. Sounds extremely doubtful though.


So let's stop here before we dive into the details

What you just admitted is you don't know how the committe was set up, but still drew conclusions and criticized Democrats for not approaching the committee in good faith.

You are willing to dive into the weeds at the smallest criticism of Republicans, but NEVER do it for Democrats, and this is a prime example. If this were a Republican committee you would be bending over backwards to dig up how it's structured to prove they were acting in good faith.


and to prove it, took me two seconds to find this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_commission#Priorities

"Under the provisions of the bill, the commission would have been composed of ten members, outside of the federal government, appointed by congressional leaders. The four party leaders in Congress (Nancy Pelosi, Kevin McCarthy, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell) would have each appointed two members, with Democratic leaders jointly appointing the chair and the Republican leaders jointly appointing the vice-chair. This would have allowed Democrats and Republicans to appoint equal number of members.[9]"


So kindly eat shit.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 28 2021 05:25pm)
Pelosi nominating one of the Republicans on the committee in the first place already shows what a sham it is. McCarthy should have been the one appointing all Republicans to the committee. Selecting Cheney of all people is just the icing on the cake. Do you seriously think that if the Senate GOP had played along, Pelosi would not have nominated Cheney (and potentially Kinzinger), and that she would have accepted Banks and Jordan? Do you think that Schumer would have refrained from nominating Romney to one of the GOP slots on the Senate side of the committee?

Technically, there is no hard proof against your theory of the case that all of these Democrat partisan moves were only in response to the big bad evil GOP refusing to cooperate. Fine. But imho, one has to be really credulous to believe that any kind of GOP cooperation short of literal public self-flagellation (with a spiked scourge) could have stopped Democrats from turning this committee into a tribunal to advance their partisan goals.



I disagree on your strategic assessment. Giving this tribunal any semblance of legitimacy would only add additional weight to the ugly facts which will come out. The GOP is in a really bad position when it comes to Jan 6. The can't divorce themselves from Trump because the base still supports him and such a move would destroy the party from within, but they also can't unconditionally defend the events of that day, or Trump's role in it, because the facts are just too clearly against them and going full QAnon here would destroy them with independents and swing voters..

Therefore, getting public opinion on this committee to split along the usual partisan lines is the best possible outcome for the GOP. It's not a contrived conspiracy on my part but a simple fact that politically speaking, the more legitimate this investigation is perceived as, the better for Democrats, and the more it's seen as a partisan circus, the better for the GOP.


Dude that didn't even fucking happen until AFTER the Senate rejected the bipartisan deal. And no, I don't think Pelosi would have appointed Cheney to one of the 5 spots because then the GOP would have 6 fucking spots on a 10 person committee. How fucking dumb do you think she is? Instead, she chose Cheney KNOWING that she would still have a clear majority regardless on the 13 person committee. And now you think Schumer would appoint Romney so the GOP would have 7 spots? Are you out of your fucking mind? Now I know why you do so many mental gymnastics for the GOP. You think Democrats are that fucking stupid.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3233/text
You seem to be profoundly misinformed if you think Pelosi would have been able to "veto" Jim Jordan.
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will the leftie fraud commission address any of these kind of questions?..........naw
NEW VIDEO: FBI Protecting Black Clad Provocateurs Who Led Jan. 6th Attack
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oNn2mncp1Kql/
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i'm pretty sure schiff was in fact fully torqued while he was crying on television
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How much love of money and the future ball sack licking must you enjoy to call this "tourism" to keep your trump based vote.
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Quote (TiStuff @ Jul 29 2021 11:04am)
will the leftie fraud commission address any of these kind of questions?..........naw
NEW VIDEO: FBI Protecting Black Clad Provocateurs Who Led Jan. 6th Attack
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oNn2mncp1Kql/


No one clicks this mentally deranged garbage.
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No one clicks this mentally deranged garbage.


ah you should.. its pretty priceless some like 5th grade CGI modifications become fact in his maggot riddled brain..
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ah you should.. its pretty priceless some like 5th grade CGI modifications become fact in his maggot riddled brain..
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