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Quote (Thor123422 @ 11 Feb 2021 10:53)
Except the MSM breaks stories all the time, IceMage has made a habit of pointing out MSM outlets or "fake news" breaking important stories all the time as a counter example to people making the kind of claims you are now. and you are exaggerating the number of TV hours covering any individual story. 10,000 hours? lol


Who mentioned anything about "fake news"? Why bring such unrelated topics into the discussion? I never indicated any news is fake or real or true or false. My claim was that 1 instance of journalism being given thousands of hours of airtime by every outlet (including direct competitors of the author) is not journalism. It's simply another ratings-based TV show.

Does the MSM break stories? Sure! How often? Given the number of outlets, the number of non-anchor reporters they have, the number of anchors, etc. etc.? Let's just say if every instance of journalism by so-called journalists was translated to stocking a product by a Walmart worker, the Walmart worker would be fired by the end of the week.

Not. Journalism.
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Who mentioned anything about "fake news"? Why bring such unrelated topics into the discussion? I never indicated any news is fake or real or true or false. My claim was that 1 instance of journalism being given thousands of hours of airtime by every outlet (including direct competitors of the author) is not journalism. It's simply another ratings-based TV show.

Does the MSM break stories? Sure! How often? Given the number of outlets, the number of non-anchor reporters they have, the number of anchors, etc. etc.? Let's just say if every instance of journalism by so-called journalists was translated to stocking a product by a Walmart worker, the Walmart worker would be fired by the end of the week.

Not. Journalism.


Not a statistical argument

Also just a poor comparison

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Not a statistical argument


You've failed to make your case. It's okay to be wrong. Simply move on. Nobody will think less of you.

You made a simply false claim. Every outlet could have reported whatever they wanted to. When it comes to a Presidential Candidate, that's kind of their responsibility. Instead of running a single negative but truthful thing about the candidate they preferred, they opted to run a smear campaign against the candidate they disliked. That's not "journalism", that's "campaigning".

Failure to report, RIGHT NOW, based on each and every single EO, exactly the same way they ACTUALLY DID for Trump? Not Journalism.

The only thing they care about is the ratings, and the Trump Show brings ratings. If they highlight Biden too closely, the fear is that he will lose support. It's not about ratings anymore, it's now about validating the Administration.

Not Journalism.
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You've failed to make your case. It's okay to be wrong. Simply move on. Nobody will think less of you.

You made a simply false claim. Every outlet could have reported whatever they wanted to. When it comes to a Presidential Candidate, that's kind of their responsibility. Instead of running a single negative but truthful thing about the candidate they preferred, they opted to run a smear campaign against the candidate they disliked. That's not "journalism", that's "campaigning".

Failure to report, RIGHT NOW, based on each and every single EO, exactly the same way they ACTUALLY DID for Trump? Not Journalism.

The only thing they care about is the ratings, and the Trump Show brings ratings. If they highlight Biden too closely, the fear is that he will lose support. It's not about ratings anymore, it's now about validating the Administration.

Not Journalism.


It's definitely about ratings, but if Trump can't make his case to the American public while having multiple major news stations riding his dick... that's his fault. You really can't argue that Trump ever did a good job communicating his successes or his failures to the public. I listened to many of his press conferences and they were god awful regardless of who he had conducting them (including himself).

Besides that, you're stating your opinion about what qualifies as journalism as fact and obviously exaggerating the numbers. That's fine, it's your opinion, but it's just your opinion.
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It's definitely about ratings, but if Trump can't make his case to the American public while having multiple major news stations riding his dick... that's his fault. You really can't argue that Trump ever did a good job communicating his successes or his failures to the public. I listened to many of his press conferences and they were god awful regardless of who he had conducting them (including himself).

Besides that, you're stating your opinion about what qualifies as journalism as fact and obviously exaggerating the numbers. That's fine, it's your opinion, but it's just your opinion.


What are the content of the EOs? What's the Biden Administration actively doing right now?

From foreign news sources, there are a lot of claims regarding US convoys entering Syria. Is this true?

Where's the Journalism? When you fail to address the point completely, you simply come off as ignorant. If you like how the MSM is focusing 100% on Trump, and avoiding reporting on the Administration, that's fine, just say so. If you don't value Journalism, that's perfectly okay.

Biden won. I don't think it's "trumptards" who fail to understand this. The Media's #1 job is to hold power to account. That's the primary purpose of Journalism. Let's see the Journalism, friend. :)
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What are the content of the EOs? What's the Biden Administration actively doing right now?

From foreign news sources, there are a lot of claims regarding US convoys entering Syria. Is this true?

Where's the Journalism? When you fail to address the point completely, you simply come off as ignorant. If you like how the MSM is focusing 100% on Trump, and avoiding reporting on the Administration, that's fine, just say so. If you don't value Journalism, that's perfectly okay.

Biden won. I don't think it's "trumptards" who fail to understand this. The Media's #1 job is to hold power to account. That's the primary purpose of Journalism. Let's see the Journalism, friend. :)


:huh: I've been listening to CNN and MSNBC for the past ~2 weeks as I play POE and they've discussed all of these things, and I was only tuning in for stimulus updates.

If you are ignorant that's your fault, not the fault of the media companies that are covering these things lol

e/ actually I haven't heard of the Syria thing. I will say that American media is bad at covering international issues. You won't get any push back from most people on that lol

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:huh: I've been listening to CNN and MSNBC for the past ~2 weeks as I play POE and they've discussed all of these things, and I was only tuning in for stimulus updates.

If you are ignorant that's your fault, not the fault of the media companies that are covering these things lol


What are the media covering? I asked direct questions. If "the media" is answering them, then post the answer. Link to the CNN and MSNBC articles.

Let's see it. Where's the Journalisming?

Hell, for that matter, the Syria question should be as simple as "true" or "false" and you can't even answer that.

Why are you in this forum, Thor? Shitposting from work again?

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What are the media covering? I asked direct questions. If "the media" is answering them, then post the answer. Link to the CNN and MSNBC articles.

Let's see it. Where's the Journalisming?


I'm not going to hold your hand lol. Just search "Biden executive orders" and you'll see dozens of articles. I know because I just did, and I heard it as they covered it.

All you're doing is saying "well I don't watch them, and I didn't hear them cover it, so therefore they didn't". That good old teenager mindset.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/here-s-full-list-biden-s-executive-actions-so-far-n1255564

Hell here's the exact thing you were wanting, the first thing you listed, and it's from weeks ago. You really can just google these things and find that they're being covered.

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I'm not going to hold your hand lol. Just search "Biden executive orders" and you'll see dozens of articles. I know because I just did, and I heard it as they covered it.

All you're doing is saying "well I don't watch them, and I didn't hear them cover it, so therefore they didn't". That good old teenager mindset.


What're you even talking about? I'm currently watching CBS News while also listening to Ben Shapiro AND reading EO #29 from the federalregister.gov.

I'm not calling on you to be a source. I'm telling you, I run the news constantly. What I have playing may be CBS, CNN, MSNBC. Since I don't have a a cable package, I do NOT watch fox news. A clip here and there via youtube, that's it.

I know what they say. And they've highlighted precisely 3 EOs that I've heard, and all 3 were, "THIS IS AMAZING! HE'S UNDOING WHAT TRUMP DID! AND HERE'S WHY TRUMP'S EVIL!!!!" That's not journalism, nor is it covering the EO. It's a Segway into another story about Trump.

I'm giving you a softball here, brother. How can you not field it? Seriously?

BTW, wifey got me a couple ribeyes when I was posting yesterday. What do you think I should make for a side? Feel free to respond via pm so you don't let anyone know we don't "really" hate each other. :P

Last minute edit: I cook my Ribeye rare-midrare, if that makes a difference on the side.

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What're you even talking about? I'm currently watching CBS News while also listening to Ben Shapiro AND reading EO #29 from the federalregister.gov.

I'm not calling on you to be a source. I'm telling you, I run the news constantly. What I have playing may be CBS, CNN, MSNBC. Since I don't have a a cable package, I do NOT watch fox news. A clip here and there via youtube, that's it.

I know what they say. And they've highlighted precisely 3 EOs that I've heard, and all 3 were, "THIS IS AMAZING! HE'S UNDOING WHAT TRUMP DID! AND HERE'S WHY TRUMP'S EVIL!!!!" That's not journalism, nor is it covering the EO. It's a Segway into another story about Trump.

I'm giving you a softball here, brother. How can you not field it? Seriously?

BTW, wifey got me a couple ribeyes when I was posting yesterday. What do you think I should make for a side? Feel free to respond via pm so you don't let anyone know we don't "really" hate each other. :P


I edited an article giving you exactly what you want. I don't think MSM is exactly the gold-standard of journalism BTW. But they're not virtually devoid of it. They definitely prioritize the stuff that gets clicks, and Trump's stuff gets clicks. I find it hard to believe you're mainlining 3 MSM networks and haven't seen the coverage I have from listening to maybe 30-60 minutes 3 times a week. Also Shapiro is worse than nothing. You're better than that lol

Okay so here's what you do. If you don't have a sous vide, get one. They're like $50 and they're awesome. Sous Vide your steak at 125F for ~2 hours with salt and pepper. It's gonna give up some juice and that's fine, save it in a bowl. Don't use butter. Everything online says to use butter when you sous vide, and it's terrible advice. Okay so after it's sous vide dry it out with a towel and sit it in the fridge until you're ready to use it. Get a skillet or cast iron pan ripping hot and cook it on each side for ~2 minutes to get a nice crust. Repeat on each side and especially on the fat cap. Then butter baste with thyme, rosemary, garlic. Get sprigs of the former 2 at walmart or something, but they're way better if you just keep a potted plant of each in your kitchen window. After you've butter basted to an internal temperature of 125 take it off and put it in foil. Then add 4-8oz of fresh cut mushrooms to the butter and sauté. Add salt and pepper. Once the mushrooms are done to your liking add ~1tbsp of flour and cook for another minute, and add beef stock. Best beef stock is made yourself with soup bones from a butcher, carrots, celery, onion, thyme, rosemary, tomato paste, and if you can find it some beef tongue or something with a lot of cartilage. Cook it down until its your preferred thickness of gravy.

For sides, carrots and parsnips tossed in olive oil salt pepper and garlic salt, baked at 400 for ~20 minutes until tender when stabbed with a fork. The gravy with root vegetables is insanely good. It will turn out better than the steak after a few attempts.


That's how I do ribeye steaks now. Anything less is insulting to the meat.

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