If they were running on the Obama 2008 platform, with the corresponding candidates, the election would already be a sealed deal. There would be no articles like today's "It's way too early to count Trump out".

I'm not convinced that the Republican electorate really CARES about the type of conservatism out there. I think what they really want is someone "tough." Both on the international stage and domestically. They want someone who is a culture warrior and that's pretty much it.

I don't necessarily want to punish Trump. While he's deplorable, he's more of a symptom instead of a cause (though there is some positive feedback mechanism going on there). The people need to change but maybe it's simply too late for them and the party needs to cease existing similar to the demise of the Whigs. But you're right, maybe it is time to give up on the GOP. I never liked Protestants much anyway.

I doubt that. Theres always going to be "it's too early" 90 days out

Obama ridiculed Romney on Russia, e.g. "The Cold War is over." The Obama administration was summarily abused. Hillary wanted to "reset" Russian relations, and the administration was taken advantage of. Obama established a "redline" in Syria. The line was crossed, and it turns out that Obama had no clothes. The Iranian theocracy was facing a historic domestic challenge to rule, with an economy teetering on collapse, and Obama threw out a lifeline.

The Democratic foreign policy approach over the last two decades has been centered around the assumption that foreign nations are good faith actors in just protest against an oppressive West led by the United States. It's fundamentally an intellectually poor frame through which to view the world. Nations are composed of individuals. Individuals are self-interested. Self-interest seeks personal advantage, and permissiveness does not inspire generosity.

The issue at its core is that the American left can't help but extend their domestic frame to the international sphere. If domestic politics is about a morally bankrupt elite oppressing the downtrodden, so must foreign policy. It's easy to see then how they end up supporting a reactionary Iran, or have sympathy for Hamas terrorists who blow up children. Dictatorship and incompetence in Venezuela? That's ok, because they're fighting the Imperialist. Famines be dammed.

The Bush foray in democracy building was a mistake. The United States should be asserting its rights abroad in order to protect and promote American interests. Foreign policy is not a moral issue. It's one of expedience. American politicians have a duty to protect and promote American interests abroad. While I take issue with both parties, the Republicans fundamentally understand that foreign policy is about power politics, the Democrats don't.

I could condense the last few paragraphs and say with respect to foreign policy your case has no merit. I'm more interested to know how the Democrats have demonstrated fiscal competence or economic stewardship, as the American public seems to heartily disagree.

The American right-left debate is past its expiry date. The Republican party is alternatively obsessed with creating an Ayn Rand dystopia and establishing an idealized caricature of1950s America. Neither has any chance of happening. The Democratic Party envisions a party-media alliance in the form of Pravda, economic illiteracy, and a refusal to take accountability for the abject failure that has been its stewardship of the black community.

The parties need to dissolve, and new ones need to rise in their place. Trump is an agent of destruction. Accelerationism is in.

How many days do you guys think Biden will last before the Clintons kill him so that Harris can be president?

Trump gets up behind podiums just about every day and delivers often hours-long monologues. He bloviates with a pretty impressive stamina, because most people would go hoarse or run out of words where Trump blathers on like only a rancorous old man can. He easily has the most frequent and lengthy public addresses of any president in history. He stumbles across a hundred subjects, changes focus midsentence abruptly and harps on a dozen tangents and sometimes doesn't even return to his original point. He quips nonstop and interjects even against himself to insert commentary, incapable of sticking to a script when he has something to say about everyone. He jousts with the hostile media directly instead of leaving it up to his press secretary, haranguing them so much and dominating the conversation to the point that CNN's only recourse to push their partisan talking points is to literally shout them at him as he leaves the room at the end.

Joe Biden has remained in his basement and avoided public stages as much as possible. He has only given interviews to a hand-selected group of sycophantic 'journalists' who have their careers invested in him, true believers who are willing to do anything to defeat Trump and would lose their jobs for even the appearance of embarrassing him. And yet, when he does talk, he still amazes with his ability to gaffe, to misunderstand questions, become irrationally hostile towards people not hostile towards him, has long awkward pauses and dyslexic word reversals, and he couldn't even answer a softball question about his own mental competence without stumbling over his words for 10 seconds. Even in the most heavily scripted appearances with a teleprompter he forgets where he is, and god help the DNC if he appears in public since he'll challenge random voters to fistfights for no damn reason and insult them with mangled old-timey invective.

Trump cut his teeth on brawling with his opponents in a public sphere in great spectacle, Joe Biden can't play solitaire without dropping the cards



Well the thread is titled Official Kamala Harris 2021 Thread
I didn't want to narrow it down more than that

This post was edited by Goomshill on Aug 12 2020 09:25pm

When you have nothing, just type a lot and hope the gullible will mistake length for intelligence.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Aug 12 2020 09:27pm

When you have nothing, you shouldn't bother replying

It's good to see you acknowledging your mistake.