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Oct 9 2022 02:32pm
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Quote (Djunior @ Oct 9 2022 11:30pm)
^Ferdia check this one out - Jeffrey Sachs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g57ViSqmRFM

A bunch of users that continuous parrot Western MSM narratives should also check it ;)


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Lol so let me get this straight on what Ukraine (with US help no doubt) just did in order to attempt to destroy the Crimean bridge.

They loaded up several tons of explosives into rolls of film that were able to pass X-ray inspection and sent it along as cargo along with some unsuspecting truck driver.

Then when the truck driver was on the bridge, they blew his truck up remotely, killing him instantly. Basically using the poor sap as an unwitting suicide bomber. Is that right?

Ukraine never ceases to amaze me with the increasingly dumb levels of hollywood-esque stupidity that these morons come up with, not to mention the new and inventive ways to terrorize innocent civilians

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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 9 2022 11:20pm)
The USSR was the only adversary who could match us after WW2. China is the only one right now. Pragmatism is a reason to compromise our ideals and make cynical bargains when in service of opposing our main competitor for geopolitical hegemony, but this war in Ukraine is neither against our competition nor furthering our interests. If we had to side with Nazis to fight Commies, I'd be more understanding. Siding with Nazis to fight a distant #4 world power is not so excusable.


Pretty reasonable take, but the way i see it, it is about pulling Europe/Russia away from each other and weakening the EU. Russia will geographically and historically tilt towards china either way, so better weaken it as well.

And a weaker Europe will remain folded in US hands.

What you think about this perspective? ^

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Pretty reasonable take, but the way i see it, it is about pulling Europe/Russia away from each other and weakening the EU. Russia will geographically and historically tilt towards china either way, so better weaken it as well.

And a weaker Europe will remain folded in US hands.

What you think about this perspective? ^


If we were serious about opposing China we'd try to pull Russia away from China and towards the US/EU to our mutual benefit. Right now the US, EU and Russia are all in freefall dragging each other down while China laughs.
Weakening the EU isn't to our benefit, our own economy is in shambles too, and its not a zero sum game where Russia's loss is our benefit.
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If we were serious about opposing China we'd try to pull Russia away from China and towards the US/EU to our mutual benefit. Right now the US, EU and Russia are all in freefall dragging each other down while China laughs.
Weakening the EU isn't to our benefit, our own economy is in shambles too, and its not a zero sum game where Russia's loss is our benefit.


I used to think that way, that peeling russia like they did china during the coldwar is the way to go. But that bridge was burned by west for the next 100 years.

Im thinking this is the 2nd best option for the US.
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Oct 9 2022 11:58pm)
Lol so let me get this straight on what Ukraine (with US help no doubt) just did in order to attempt to destroy the Crimean bridge.

They loaded up several tons of explosives into rolls of film that were able to pass X-ray inspection and sent it along as cargo along with some unsuspecting truck driver.

Then when the truck driver was on the bridge, they blew his truck up remotely, killing him instantly. Basically using the poor sap as an unwitting suicide bomber. Is that right?

Ukraine never ceases to amaze me with the increasingly dumb levels of hollywood-esque stupidity that these morons come up with, not to mention the new and inventive ways to terrorize innocent civilians


You got it bent, nobody even x-rayed the truck for unknown reasons
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If we were serious about opposing China we'd try to pull Russia away from China and towards the US/EU to our mutual benefit. Right now the US, EU and Russia are all in freefall dragging each other down while China laughs.
Weakening the EU isn't to our benefit, our own economy is in shambles too, and its not a zero sum game where Russia's loss is our benefit.

Well, the US is serious about 'opposing China', it's just that the tools don't exist to do it. Even if the Russia angle had have been played differently, China has been preparing for conflict with the West for over a decade. The only critical weak point for China is that it's an energy importer, and it already has the ability to circumvent a blockade of the Malacca Strait.

So all the US has left is sanctions and provoking a conflict over Taiwan. The former is being applied heavily (the latest sanctions are so extreme that almost every Chinese liberal I follow is seemingly coming to the conclusion that war with America is all but inevitable, hot or not), and the latter if it leads to a sanctions/divestment situation similar to Russia will in my opinion heavily favour China when it comes to comparative economic upset.

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It's time to stop this.

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