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Oct 8 2022 12:28pm
The Crimean bridge is already reopen for traffic lol
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Oct 8 2022 12:35pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Oct 8 2022 07:28pm)
The Crimean bridge is already reopen for traffic lol


Good for Russians to escape Crimea lol
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Oct 8 2022 12:39pm
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Ukrainian leadership seems amateurish. In less than 24 hours they went from gloating about taking down the bridge to completely denying it and blaming Russia as yet another false flag...

https://twitter.com/Podolyak_M/status/1578714525867859969

Between the Dugina thing and now this it feels like they are getting external partner rebukes. It kind of feels like Ukraine is just going commando with some of these ops while partners in the west want contained type engagements.


Well, both sides have diverging interests. Ukraine wants to go balls to the wall to retake as much of its territory as possible, as quick as possible, before they run out of steam/the onset of winter/support for this war erodes in the West.
NATO, on the other hand, wants to stop Russia while keeping the risk of further escalation, especially a nuclear one, as low as possible, even if a more cautious course ultimately means that Ukraine has to cede slightly more territory.
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Oct 8 2022 12:51pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 8 2022 11:39am)
Well, both sides have diverging interests. Ukraine wants to go balls to the wall to retake as much of its territory as possible, as quick as possible, before they run out of steam/the onset of winter/support for this war erodes in the West.
NATO, on the other hand, wants to stop Russia while keeping the risk of further escalation, especially a nuclear one, as low as possible, even if a more cautious course ultimately means that Ukraine has to cede slightly more territory.


I think it's in the best interest of everyone to end the war as quickly as possible while maintaining Ukrainian sovereignty. Obviously the Russian shills want Ukraine to give as much territory as possible but that encourages future Russian invasions as well as economic instability world wide. Putin WANTS NATO to get involved so that he can walk away with pride and we're not giving it to him for whatever reason. Biden has always been dovish though and it's costing a lot of lives when we could just rip off the band-aid. Frankly, Biden's approach to military interventionism is one of his greatest flaws. He was against the FIRST Gulf War, he was against the bin Laden raid, he pulled out of Afghanistan when we clearly should have stayed indefinitely, etc.
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Oct 8 2022 09:04pm
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Oct 8 2022 11:20pm
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Crimea is Russia
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Oct 8 2022 11:21pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 8 2022 12:51pm)
I think it's in the best interest of everyone to end the war as quickly as possible while maintaining Ukrainian sovereignty. Obviously the Russian shills want Ukraine to give as much territory as possible but that encourages future Russian invasions as well as economic instability world wide. Putin WANTS NATO to get involved so that he can walk away with pride and we're not giving it to him for whatever reason. Biden has always been dovish though and it's costing a lot of lives when we could just rip off the band-aid. Frankly, Biden's approach to military interventionism is one of his greatest flaws. He was against the FIRST Gulf War, he was against the bin Laden raid, he pulled out of Afghanistan when we clearly should have stayed indefinitely, etc.


The US has taken what little may have existed of Ukraine's "sovereignty" many, many years ago. That ship has sailed. If the Ukrainians really wanted a country they could call their own they would need to get rid of Zelensky and stop taking out IMF loans.

LOL, good luck with that
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Oct 9 2022 02:58am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Oct 9 2022 08:20am)
Crimea is Russia


Its ok bro, you dont need to be a unique snowflake to be loved and be heard.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 8 2022 01:17pm)
Well, Ukraine and Crimea also belong to Europe, so I'd say the attack on that Crimean airfield from a month or so ago was bigger. And I don't know if any singular attack on Ukrainian infrastructure did as much damage as this one. But when it comes to civilian infrastructure, you might actually be right.


As much as Id like it to be Ukrainians who attacked the bridge its obvious it was either FSB or GUR(Russian military) who perpetrated this attack, 80% sure its FSB
There is ongoing fight between these 2 factions inside Kremlin with GUR trying to point out that FSB gave incorrect analysis of Ukraines capabilities promising fast victory, while FSB is blaming the corruption and military for failing to achieve the targets as the main reason for the failed war.
Heads are rolling on both sides as scapegoats are being sacrificed. With amount of security present on the bridge, you cannot drive a truck full of explosives through so many scanners without security being in on it.

There are 2 possibilities:
1) GRU or FSB did it to undermine the other, FSB throughout its entire sorry ass history blows up things in false flag attacks just like the apartment buildings to start war in Chechnya. The reason for it to be most likely FSB is now that bridge has to be fully examined for damages it greatly reduces Russian capacity to supply its military in Ukraines south until November at the very earliest so if it was GRU they just shot themselves in the foot as they need the bridge fully functional to supply its forces. However GRU is known for its typical no brain approach, just as they rushed Dagestan terrorists who took Beslan school hostages resulting in crazy amount of deaths when those terrorists where ready to talk in order to greatly escalate the Ingush-Ossetian hostility.

2) Just by chance, a truck that was carrying explosives for GUR to the front lines/Crimea blew up where it did. A lucky accident.

This post was edited by Lvivz on Oct 9 2022 06:06am
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Quote (SanduLungu @ Oct 5 2022 06:53pm)
it's like saying you suck dick, you just don't swallow.

lmao.


Well there is this...




Just so everyone is clear here, its not what it looks like, Russian propaganda explained it quote:

FAKE: Ukrainians are spreading propaganda, that Russian soldiers on the video are engaged in an act of oral homosexuality.
Truth: Russian Army fights for peace, orthodoxy and traditional values. On video we can see Russian soldiers praying, one soldier is holding a portrait of Mary and second soldier kisses the portrait. All fantasies of Ukrainian nazi-gays are a fake.

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