Quote (dro94 @ Mar 9 2022 02:25pm)
Today's news roundup:
Russia admits that conscripts were sent to Ukraine 'by mistake', even though Putin explicitly promised they wouldn't be:
https://t.me/zvezdanews/71894 . Presumably, they took a lot of conscript casualties so couldn't hide it any longer. It also indicates Russia didn't have enough troops for a full scale invasion and explains morale issues
Russian forces are attempting to get to Kyiv from the West - South West now, as well as the North West and East. They've made gains in the North West and now control Bucha and most of Irpin. Attempts to encircle Kyiv from the East are proving difficult as they haven't taken Sumy or the nearby towns to the West, thus leaving their supply lines stretched and prone to sabotage
More airstrikes are happening near Sumy as of yesterday, most likely to lay the grounds for infantry to move in on the city. Taking Sumy would be important to establish safe supply lines into Kyiv from the East
Zaporizhya is being targeted in the move northwards, but Russia don't have enough troops to take it yet. They've been repulsed so far but 3 BTG are heading there to presumably siege the city
No success for Russia in the last few days in Mykolaiv, Kharkiv or Chernihiv
One of their top generals and Spetznaz commanders had his brains blown out the other day. Was a good shot. About 20k American veterans on the ground in Ukraine defending democracy.
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 9 2022 02:37pm)
Bribed is possibly the wrong word but what happened is a lot of economic investment/loans/inclusion into various things are tied together. In the 1990s and later on in the early 2000's many of those eastern and central European countries were thirsty as fuck for any sort of investment and job creation and most of that money would be coming from the west, not the crumbled soviet east. Joining the EU and NATO as well, provided the economic carrot that tbh no one really wanted to turn down. If I'm an average Estonian, it's not necessarily that I feared Russia in 2004 but if NATO is looking to spend 5 billion dollars to build bases, house their soldiers here, spend more money here in my community I'd be all for it because ultimately it stimulates my economy, raises my standard of living, allows me to spend a week in Greece on holiday, etc. That's why all those ex-soviet states rushed at that opportunity meanwhile the much richer Finns and Swedes to this day are kind of on the fence about joining.
I don't know what happened in the smoky back room discussions that led to many of these countries to join NATO but as a sidebar look at the pressure that is being applied right now to countries like Hungary & Poland that are not on the same page when it comes to issues like immigration and social issues like lgbtqbbq+ rights. It's hard for me to believe that the enticement of economic investment wasn't used as some bargaining chip.
And now the freedom of the Baltic states is at risk and the only thing keeping them safe is their alliance with Western powers.
That is why Finland is beating down the door right now lol.
This post was edited by Skinned on Mar 9 2022 04:40pm