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Oct 6 2022 01:51pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 7 Oct 2022 03:32)
Without any support? Probably not. Without US support, but while still getting support from Poland/the Baltics/Romania etc? I wouldn't rule it out once Russia's military has been depleted enough.


Put it this way, if US turn off intelligence and satellite support , I think Ukraine is going to have a very very bad time.
The Baltics are kinda useless. Even if Russia's military is depleted to a point of no return , she still have tactical nukes so it can never be depleted enough. Putin just celebrated his 70th Birthday. If something happens to him naturally and he doesn't have a successor. Then perhaps the war will be won by the West without lifting another finger.
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Oct 6 2022 02:06pm
Quote (Impy @ Oct 6 2022 02:41pm)
That's what we're doing already. I think it will be pretty clear when it starts being not ok. I'm against any collateral damage.


I know that is what we're already doing. I don't think we have any plans to do more outside nuclear weapons use.
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Oct 6 2022 02:11pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 6 Oct 2022 21:17)
Because US have been supporting inhuman regime and allowing them to flourish as long as their Geo Political interest is met.
Therefore People point at US more often than not.


Ukraine very inhuman. US itself very inhuman.
China, Iran, Russia,.. Norh Korea ... Very good. Good, good...
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Oct 6 2022 02:27pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ 7 Oct 2022 04:11)
Ukraine very inhuman. US itself very inhuman.
China, Iran, Russia,.. Norh Korea ... Very good. Good, good...


Are you daft or you lack basic knowledge of United States international adventurism.

You can piss off if you don't want to have a proper factual debate Saucisson :rolleyes:



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Oct 6 2022 02:35pm
Quote (Santara @ Oct 6 2022 10:06pm)
I know that is what we're already doing. I don't think we have any plans to do more outside nuclear weapons use.



Let's make it simple and assume that Russia will use nukes in Ukraine: How would you rate any kind of physical intervention by NATO (be it an attack on russias infrastructure or whatever along those lines), would you rate it as smart or would you rate that intervention as batshit crazy?
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Oct 6 2022 03:03pm
Quote (Impy @ Oct 6 2022 03:35pm)
Let's make it simple and assume that Russia will use nukes in Ukraine: How would you rate any kind of physical intervention by NATO (be it an attack on russias infrastructure or whatever along those lines), would you rate it as smart or would you rate that intervention as batshit crazy?


Doing nothing is not an option. I don't think any nuclear weapons use is justified, on either parties' account. So the question becomes what is a justified, measured response to nuclear provocation? I don't have enough information to say, other than "not nothing."
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Quote (Santara @ 7 Oct 2022 05:03)
Doing nothing is not an option. I don't think any nuclear weapons use is justified, on either parties' account. So the question becomes what is a justified, measured response to nuclear provocation? I don't have enough information to say, other than "not nothing."


I have a feeling they will use one in the black sea first in close approximity to Ukraine and test the waters before they use it on land just to Guage international reactions.

I m sure Russia wants to see China's and India's reactions.
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I have a feeling they will use one in the black sea first in close approximity to Ukraine and test the waters before they use it on land just to Guage international reactions.

I m sure Russia wants to see China's and India's reactions.


It does seem relatively harmless. What if the US detonates a nuke in the Black Sea near Russia? Even if they have zero intention of using one in retaliation for land use nukes?
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Quote (Santara @ 7 Oct 2022 06:00)
It does seem relatively harmless. What if the US detonates a nuke in the Black Sea near Russia? Even if they have zero intention of using one in retaliation for land use nukes?


Let's see how the mid term goes first. .
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 6 2022 03:11pm)
Iguess its easier to point ou US, using it as a diversion or a scapegoat, instead of defending somme beloved unhuman régime.


What bout your country invading the middle east and killing countless civil all that for oil and drug $ and bringing our beautiful banking system/controlling pipelines.
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