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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 5 2022 08:52pm)
I meant a similar Nuclear Reaction.


nono, they wont, they will go conventional with overwhelming force. ofc it depends on what putin actually does.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 6 Oct 2022 03:52)
If Russia uses a nuclear weapon at minimum the west steps up their sanctions to a point where they won't even trade with anybody who trades with Russia.

Use of nuclear weapons is a hard stopping point no matter who does it.


That will not be possible , because you will literally enter Cold War 2.0.

I have think I have mentioned to you before, the West is not everything.
If you would have said this to me 15 to 20 years back, everyone would have backed off and not support Russia.

But currently at this moment it is hard to say and difficult to predict.

Quote (ferdia @ 6 Oct 2022 03:53)
nono, they wont, they will go conventional with overwhelming force. ofc it depends on what putin actually does.


I think more weapons and more money :lol: but not sure if they are willing to send in their troops because of the usage of small yield tactical nukes.
Well maybe they won't send American troops so everyone else is going to be ok. :lol:

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Quote (ownyaah @ Oct 5 2022 02:50pm)
wagner, nazis? Silly

They are just contract soldiers, blackwater etc. No difference at all.


This guy is the leader, pictured with Putin:



A Wagner unit patch:



More of the Rusich unit:

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 5 2022 02:56pm)
That will not be possible , because you will literally enter Cold War 2.0.

I have think I have mentioned to you before, the West is not everything.
If you would have said this to me 15 to 20 years back, everyone would have backed off and not support Russia.

But currently at this moment it is hard to say and difficult to predict.


Why do you think we wouldn't enter Cold War 2.0? That is exactly what the situation would be if Russia uses a nuke. The West immediately goes on high alert and bring down the curtain on Russia once again.

Except this time Russia would be far easier to isolate. You think China is going to take a stance backing Russia after they throw the world onto the brink of nuclear annihilation? Fuck no. China is self-interested and the calculus for the short and long term are negative by supporting Russia in that scenario.
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Quote (Santara @ Oct 5 2022 11:01pm)
This guy is the leader, pictured with Putin:

https://admin.romea.cz/app/uploads/2022/02/utkin.jpg

A Wagner unit patch:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPhauoNXEAILMZX.jpg

More of the Rusich unit:

https://i.imgur.com/3Y96zo1.png


how many nazi patches will you find in ukr army? azov, aidar, etc ?

Doesn't really mean much, wagner are just contract soldiers turned mercenaries. Exact same thing as blackwater etc

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Quote (ownyaah @ Oct 5 2022 03:05pm)
how many nazi patches will you find in ukr army? azov, aidar, etc ?

Doesn't really mean much, wagner are just contract soldiers turned mercenaries. Exact same thing as blackwater etc


The Wagner group pretty clearly takes their orders and gets their funding from Russia even if they classify themselves as contract soldiers. It's just classified that way for convenience honestly.

Ukraine has less than 1000 neo-nazis in their ranks. Yeah, it's a problem, but Ukraine is also sending them to die on the front lines which I'm always fine with.

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The Wagner group pretty clearly takes their orders and gets their funding from Russia even if they classify themselves as contract soldiers. It's just classified that way for convenience honestly.

Ukraine has less than 1000 neo-nazis in their ranks. Yeah, it's a problem, but Ukraine is also sending them to die on the front lines which I'm always fine with.


blackwater got its orders + funds from US. Still contract soldiers. It isn't about convenience, these are soldiers that at some point were kicked out or left the real military.
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Quote (ownyaah @ Oct 5 2022 03:05pm)
how many nazi patches will you find in ukr army? azov, aidar, etc ?

Doesn't really mean much, wagner are just contract soldiers turned mercenaries. Exact same thing as blackwater etc


Plenty. But guys who use Nazis to do their dirty work don't get to complain about fighting Nazis.
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We are all the nazi of someone else.
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