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Jul 17 2017 07:34pm
Quote (Knaapie @ 18 Jul 2017 03:20)
a ) Is oil more expensive ? I remember buying gas for 20% more than the price now, about 5 years ago. And we are moving towards renewables that are allowed to be a bit more expensive and become cheaper the next 10 years. I havn't seen an increased price yet.
b ) true, it's to get out of a crisis. Ppl suggest to not raise it too soon afterwards, expect another 1-3 years at this rate.
c ) yep, giving countries massive death taxes everytime a house owner dies. We can hopefully deflate the bubble with policies in the future, The Netherlands desperately needs one. (and is moving towards it).
d ) yes.. We've had a massive crisis. any bubble bursting now can cause even further regression of the standards of living in our countries. I think we've stabilized and hope we can increase our economy before the next bubble bursts. Even better: prevent a burst.


lets not discuss the european debt/economic/political crisis in a trump thread.

about point a) though: the oil price is of fluctuating, but relative to the trend of oil prices on the world markets, it has been more expensive in the euro zone due to the euro's devaluation relative to the USD, which is caused by the ecb's quantitive easing program. in other words: the decline of oil prices was dampened by the euro devaluation.

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Jul 17 2017 07:38pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 17 2017 09:03pm)
ofc it is, why you think people concentrate in towns ? to be close to their jobs.

Oh let me know, the only true voters are farmers maybe ? (the one from east of kentucky ? ^_^ )

https://www.minnpost.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/distoflaborforcebysector.png


"Raw Materials"

Services don't produce raw materials, they provide a luxury or trade skill.
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Jul 17 2017 07:42pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Jul 2017 02:34)
lets not discuss the european debt/economic/political crisis in a trump thread.

about point a) though: the oil price is of fluctuating, but relative to the trend of oil prices on the world markets, it has been more expensive in the euro zone due to the euro's devaluation relative to the USD, which is caused by the ecb's quantitive easing program. in other words: the decline of oil prices was dampened by the euro devaluation.


I'll admit that this might not be the right place, and will look into the eu/dollar fluctuation on the oil prices.. there is a peak today: 1 € : 1.153 $
/e: tbh, I dont understand how an expensive dollar is making oil cheaper ^^ pm me ;)

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Jul 17 2017 08:03pm
Quote (Knaapie @ 18 Jul 2017 03:42)
I'll admit that this might not be the right place, and will look into the eu/dollar fluctuation on the oil prices.. there is a peak today: 1 € : 1.153 $
/e: tbh, I dont understand how an expensive dollar is making oil cheaper ^^ pm me ;)


internationally, crude oil is denominated in USD.
assume that the oil price in USD is constant over a certain timeframe. if the euro is then during this timeframe depreciating compared to the dollar/if the dollar is appreciating realtive to the euro, then you have to pay more euros to get one dollar, and hence you must pay more euros to buy one gallon of oil; even though the world market oil prices remained constant. in reality, both the oil price and the exchange rates are constantly moving. in recent times, the effects of those two trends have partly cancelled each other out in the eurozone.

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Jul 17 2017 08:11pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 17 2017 09:03pm)
internationally, crude oil is denominated in USD.
assume that the oil price in USD is constant over a certain timeframe. if the euro is then during this timeframe depreciating compared to the dollar/if the dollar is appreciating realtive to the euro, then you have to pay more euros to get one dollar, and hence you must pay more euros to buy one gallon of oil; even though the world market oil prices remained constant. in reality, both the oil price and the exchange rates are constantly moving. in recent times, the effects of those two trends have partly cancelled each other out in the eurozone.




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Jul 19 2017 12:14pm
It's really funny to see that souvenir stores in Moscow sell Trump themed memorabilia.
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Jul 19 2017 12:23pm
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It's really funny to see that souvenir stores in Moscow sell Trump themed memorabilia.


I'm actually interested in the money stream of the merchandise. Melania merchandise in Slovenia is highly copyrighted. So no-one, except for Trump's firms, can profit from pictures/full names.
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Jul 19 2017 01:29pm
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my trump clown is enough :love:
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Jul 19 2017 01:51pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-ends-covert-cia-program-to-arm-anti-assad-rebels-in-syria-a-move-sought-by-moscow/2017/07/19/b6821a62-6beb-11e7-96ab-5f38140b38cc_story.html

Donald Trump just committed treason by ending our covert CIA program that was arming jihadis and sending weapons to ISIS and had catastrophic impact on the syrian conflict
He must be impeached immediately
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