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Quote (ferdia @ 5 Oct 2022 20:44)
so surely you see the problem then, how will this war end. ukraine can win conventionally, putin refuses to lose.


Small tactical Nuke. I think the Russians are itching to try.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 5 Oct 2022 15:21)
Small tactical Nuke. I think the Russians are itching to try.


This is what proposed Ramzan Kadyrov. I think he could end up being assassinated or whatever executed once Russia will fall.
Thus what can prevent Ukraine in a desperate moment to pop up dirty radioactive devices in russian towns. etc.
Many talks.

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Quote (ferdia @ Oct 5 2022 07:44am)
so surely you see the problem then, how will this war end. ukraine can win conventionally, putin refuses to lose.


Conversely, Ukraine refuses to lose. The difference is that Russia is probably incapable of bringing the war to an end on desirable terms. Putin will lose.
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Oct 5 2022 08:03am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 5 2022 03:21pm)
Small tactical Nuke. I think the Russians are itching to try.

If the nuke, then they'll drop one on Kiev.
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Quote (Santara @ 5 Oct 2022 16:01)
Conversely, Ukraine refuses to lose. The difference is that Russia is probably incapable of bringing the war to an end on desirable terms. Putin will lose.


The only open question remaining imho is how much of its lost territory Ukraine will be able to take back before they run out of steam and the frontline turns static.
That they'll take back everything to the West of the Dnieper river, including the city of Kherson, is a given. I doubt that they'll be able (or willing) to push into Crimea or into Donetsk city. The biggest question mark is if they'll be able to break the land connection between Crimea and Donbass.
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Oct 5 2022 08:19am

A bit of humor doesn't hurt..

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I saw this on 9gag
funny as fuck lol
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 5 2022 09:07am)
The only open question remaining imho is how much of its lost territory Ukraine will be able to take back before they run out of steam and the frontline turns static.
That they'll take back everything to the West of the Dnieper river, including the city of Kherson, is a given. I doubt that they'll be able (or willing) to push into Crimea or into Donetsk city. The biggest question mark is if they'll be able to break the land connection between Crimea and Donbass.


I don't foresee Donetsk, but Mariupol and Crimea are possibilities. Crimea especially considering its water supply originates in Nova Kakhovka, which is currently in peril.
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Quote (Santara @ 5 Oct 2022 16:40)
I don't foresee Donetsk, but Mariupol and Crimea are possibilities. Crimea especially considering its water supply originates in Nova Kakhovka, which is currently in peril.

Crimea is a historically charged place for Russia, they have, on multiple occasions throughout history, paid an unimaginable death toll to hold it. Attacking Crimea is just about the only thing Ukraine could do that would allow Putin to declare a full mobilization without the Russian public turning on him and this war. It's also the most likely place for which Russia would use nukes to defend it. And it's the most Russia-friendly oblast in all of Ukraine. Imho, attacking Crimea would be a bad idea.
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