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Oct 4 2022 05:46pm
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1. LOL at the "temper tantrum" characterization.
2. The Solomon islands certainly aren't irrelevant. There's a reason why we set up the following with other Pacific Island countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_of_Free_Association
3. I never said that we don't care about alignment. I said that nuclear weapons close to US soil wouldn't be concerning from a security standpoint (for obvious reasons).


It's accurate though. We publicly threatened a sovereign state for simply wanting to build a relationship with one of our adversaries because it bothers us that China might have some sort of "forward base" type outpost kind of like what we have literally all across the globe. On China's doorstep, on Russia's doorstep, on everyone's doorstep really.

The third point is not true either. We absolutely care. If Mexico all of the sudden wanted to start hosting Russian troops and a Russian base to house nuclear silos we 100% would have an issue with that. It wouldn't even get to that point because we would have a popular uprising brewing there well before there would be even whispers of such a thing.

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Oct 4 2022 05:59pm
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The third point is not true either. We absolutely care. If Mexico all of the sudden wanted to start hosting Russian troops and a Russian base to house nuclear silos we 100% would have an issue with that. It wouldn't even get to that point because we would have a popular uprising brewing there well before there would be even whispers of such a thing.


1. No one ever suggested deploying American nukes to silos in Ukraine.
2. The US would have enough economic and soft power to convince, or if necessary coerce, Mexico into backing off. Russia clearly couldn't do the same with Ukraine, because they are a shithole which has nothing to offer to the world other than oil and gas.
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Oct 4 2022 06:09pm
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1. No one ever suggested deploying American nukes to silos in Ukraine.
2. The US would have enough economic and soft power to convince, or if necessary coerce, Mexico into backing off. Russia clearly couldn't do the same with Ukraine, because they are a shithole which has nothing to offer to the world other than oil and gas.


My response wasn't based on what's happening in Ukraine but rather the unilateral "rules for thee but not for me" mentality we have here in the US. Coercing or enticing (whether through some carrot or stick) smaller countries into doing what we want by economic and soft power means is an advantage that no one has but to some of us critical of US foreign policy it's also a tremendous force of destabilization. You're right, Russian can't compete with that though, doesn't have much to do with being a shithole and has everything to do with the dollar being the international unit of commerce.

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1. No one ever suggested deploying American nukes to silos in Ukraine.
2. The US would have enough economic and soft power to convince, or if necessary coerce, Mexico into backing off. Russia clearly couldn't do the same with Ukraine, because they are a shithole which has nothing to offer to the world other than oil and gas.


If you can nuclear share with Turkey. You will nuclear share with Ukraine if Ukraine joins Nato
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Oct 4 2022 07:33pm
Columbia professor really said this on Bloomberg live :lol:

Talking heads can't fathom it.

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1576976409485901827
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Columbia professor really said this on Bloomberg live :lol:

Talking heads can't fathom it.

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1576976409485901827


I think the only MSM and friendly media point the finger at Russia.
I had a discussion with my mates in Singapore, former university friends in Melbourne and my partners in Taiwan .

Everyone laughed and said obviously it's USA or ally.
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Oct 4 2022 11:36pm
Just wanted to give a bit of history to all the western supporters crackheads in this topic.

Ukraine is a composite country created by Staline in the 30's. Lituanians/polak on north, russians at south. the first ones hating the second.
When the nazis enters Ukraine in 1941, they are welcomed as heroes (lmao) by the lutianians/polak people, because they thought they would kick russian speakers from the country.

1945, Khroutchtchev transfers Crimea to Ukraine as symbolic gift celebrating the 300th anniversary of Pereiaslav treaty.

1991, ussr explodes. Bush father made a promise (no official decrets, just conversation mano to mano) to never extend NAto to russia's frontlines.
At that time Kiev's regime was favorable to russia and even let them use sebastopol's port, which was built by russia since long time by the way.

Since that moment, the american geopolitic only consisted to tear out Ukraine from Russia's influence. (Read on this subject : Zbigniew Brzezinsky, the big chessboard)

tl;dr. usa didn't do nuffin' but it's not russia who made a coup in Mexico in order to install militaries bases next to american frontlines.
Usa did it in 2014 using neo-nazis, wasn't hard with a country such as Ukraine since it has heavy nazi roots. But don't act like all of a sudden, Putain decided to invade Ukraine based on his will of expansionnism.
About usa, do not never trust these snakes based on their words, have them to sign on a paper first.

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Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 5 2022 03:33am)
Columbia professor really said this on Bloomberg live :lol:

Talking heads can't fathom it.

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1576976409485901827

There are very strong indicies it was Russia by now. The gas from the crack was supposed to run out but it still leaks with full power meaning someone is pumping gas into. The reason might be obstruction of a possible investigation. Only Russia can pump gas into those. Then, magically both pipes of NS1 are damaged but one of the NS2 is open. Not just open but fully functional according to Gazprom. All of the farce looks like a crude attempt to force Germany to use NS2.

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There are very strong indicies it was Russia by now. The gas from the crack was supposed to run out but it still leaks with full power meaning someone is pumping gas into. The reason might be obstruction of a possible investigation. Only Russia can pump gas into those. Then, magically both pipes of NS1 are damaged but one of the NS2 is open. Not just open but fully functional according to Gazprom. All of the farce looks like a crude attempt to force Germany to use NS2.


evidence? links?
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