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Oct 4 2022 11:14am
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In the event of a nuclear strike the ONLY way to possibly restore stability is going to be total isolation of Russia. Negotiating anything with them sends the signal to Russia that they can invade and nuke the country and they will be negotiated with and allowed to keep what they took.

Additionally, the patriotic fervor that would erupt in the USA would basically mandate massive cuts to our trade with China if they aren't abiding by all of our sanctions. We (the combined EU, USA, Canada, Mexico, etc.) hold a LOT more leverage over China in trade than they hold over us.


What patriotic fervor?

You guys elected Biden which struggle to keep his eyes open and barely able to talk coherently and most of the country is low testosterone male who's too busy debating bout their pronouns of choice and favourite Covid cocktail.

This ain't 1945 bud. We're in 2022.

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Oct 4 2022 11:19am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 4 2022 05:11pm)
In the event of a nuclear strike the ONLY way to possibly restore stability is going to be total isolation of Russia. Negotiating anything with them sends the signal to Russia that they can invade and nuke the country and they will be negotiated with and allowed to keep what they took.

Additionally, the patriotic fervor that would erupt in the USA would basically mandate massive cuts to our trade with China if they aren't abiding by all of our sanctions. We (the combined EU, USA, Canada, Mexico, etc.) hold a LOT more leverage over China in trade than they hold over us.


Lmao what a funny guy right there

without china and all its resources usa and eu go back to 17th century
and tesla goes to the ground too, not like it needs help tho :p

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Oct 4 2022 11:25am
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In the event of a nuclear strike the ONLY way to possibly restore stability is going to be total isolation of Russia. Negotiating anything with them sends the signal to Russia that they can invade and nuke the country and they will be negotiated with and allowed to keep what they took.

Additionally, the patriotic fervor that would erupt in the USA would basically mandate massive cuts to our trade with China if they aren't abiding by all of our sanctions. We (the combined EU, USA, Canada, Mexico, etc.) hold a LOT more leverage over China in trade than they hold over us.


I think you need to realize that this is no longer the 80s,90s and the early 2000s.

EU/USA/CANADA and Mexico (?) is no longer the world. They might be the world in your eyes, but it doesn't just revolve around them.

If they want to cut out China / India and even South East Asia they can try.

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Oct 4 2022 11:27am
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I think you need to realize that this is no longer the 80s,90s and the early 2000s.

EU/USA/CANADA and Mexico (?) is no longer the world. They might be the world in your eyes, but it doesn't just revolve around them.

If they can cut out China / India and even South East Asia they can try.


India and China COMBINED aren't even as big as the United States or the EU individually.

The USA and the EU can survive without China and India. It won't be as good as it's been the past several decades. There will be some pain. But it's a difference between "some pain" and total and absolute economic collapse, which is what China and India would face if the west cut them off.
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Oct 4 2022 11:31am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 4 2022 01:25pm)
I think you need to realize that this is no longer the 80s,90s and the early 2000s.

EU/USA/CANADA and Mexico (?) is no longer the world. They might be the world in your eyes, but it doesn't just revolve around them.

If they want to cut out China / India and even South East Asia they can try.


He been living online for too long consuming the same American media outlets which promote the same garbage. On top of that, most of his knowledge prob have something to do with Anime and Covid cocktails.

South America and Central America literally the equivalent of India and North America going downhill fast. Good thing Canada is on the western hemisphere to save the day and even Canada going downhill fast with that WEF shill leading the country.

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Most people don't appreciate how assymetric the relationship between the west and China / India has been.

We do not NEED China or India. We have used them out of convenience for cheap labor.

On the other hand, India and China are absolutely and totally dependent on the west for economic survival. India and China do not really innovate. They mostly steal or license technology and are pretty much incapable of R&D outside of that. Their chip manufacturing has been a total flop. They are massively behind on space travel. All of their military equipment is ripped off from schematics they stole. There's a few isolated areas where this isn't the case. India has a passable pharma sector for example. But on the whole, they are massively dependent.
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India and China COMBINED aren't even as big as the United States or the EU individually.

The USA and the EU can survive without China and India. It won't be as good as it's been the past several decades. There will be some pain. But it's a difference between "some pain" and total and absolute economic collapse, which is what China and India would face if the west cut them off.


South East Asia
Population : 683,449,286

China
Population : 1,402, 000,000

India : 1,380,000,000

That is almost 3.5 Billion
World Population is about 8 billion

I am not even including Bangladesh and other Asian countries, just this 3 areas only.
Can you fill me in what you meant by China and India combined is not bigger than USA and EU individually?


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South East Asia
Population : 683,449,286

China
Population : 1,402, 000,000

India : 1,380,000,000

That is almost 3.5 Billion
World Population is about 8 billion

I am not even including Bangladesh and other Asian countries, just this 3 areas only.
Can you fill me in what you meant by China and India combined is not bigger than USA and EU individually?


Suck when you realize you're wasting your time with a way lesser intelligent individual eh? I just keep going to make him typetypetype but i long realized he's a lost cause with a custom pronoun and a darker skin tone.

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Oct 4 2022 11:40am
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Most people don't appreciate how assymetric the relationship between the west and China / India has been.

We do not NEED China or India. We have used them out of convenience for cheap labor.

On the other hand, India and China are absolutely and totally dependent on the west for economic survival. India and China do not really innovate. They mostly steal or license technology and are pretty much incapable of R&D outside of that. Their chip manufacturing has been a total flop. They are massively behind on space travel. All of their military equipment is ripped off from schematics they stole. There's a few isolated areas where this isn't the case. India has a passable pharma sector for example. But on the whole, they are massively dependent.


:rofl:
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Oct 4 2022 11:41am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 4 2022 12:37pm)
South East Asia
Population : 683,449,286

China
Population : 1,402, 000,000

India : 1,380,000,000

That is almost 3.5 Billion
World Population is about 8 billion

I am not even including Bangladesh and other Asian countries, just this 3 areas only.
Can you fill me in what you meant by China and India combined is not bigger than USA and EU individually?


In terms of economic output India and China are smaller than the USA or EU individually.
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