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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHvSqT645Rk


CNN.

Do you even care in the slightest when you're being lied too?
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Zelenskiy signs decree ruling out negotiations with Putin.

Volodymyr Zelenskiy has signed a decree formally declaring the prospect of any Ukrainian talks with Vladimir Putin “impossible”. The decree formalised comments made by Zelenskiy on Friday after the Russian president proclaimed four occupied regions of Ukraine to be a part of Russia. “He [Putin] does not know what dignity and honesty are. Therefore, we are ready for a dialogue with Russia, but with another president of Russia,” Zelenskiy said on Friday. Clause one of the decree, which was prepared by the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine on 30 September, reads “[Ukraine decided] to state the impossibility of conducting negotiations with the president of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin.”

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Happy for that to be discussed!

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Zelensky the faithful puppet. In the end he will be a puppet in exile :rofl:
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Oct 4 2022 10:13am)
Zelensky the faithful puppet. In the end he will be a puppet in exile :rofl:


Puppet of who?
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CNN.

Do you even care in the slightest when you're being lied too?


I post video's and articles from a range of countries. if you dont like some of them, thats OK.

similar interview from EU:



its not the broadcaster thats relevant, its the content.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 4 2022 08:35am
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Oct 4 2022 08:43am
another CNN video, ignore the broadcaster and just listen to what Blair is saying.
You dont have to like Blair, to accept what he is saying, and yes Blair is an easy target, committed war crimes but not charged because they didnt have a law for what he did.

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Quote (chopstickz777 @ 4 Oct 2022 22:11)
CNN.

Do you even care in the slightest when you're being lied too?


You are being unfair. Not everything from CNN is what you think it is.
I can say the same for MSNBC, FOX News etc etc.

I will give you an example.

Fareed Zakaria is from CNN and I personally think that he has a lot of insight when it comes to global and domestic affairs.
And he is quite genuine.

If you think certain media is lying there will also be people who says that RT or even China's Global times is lying.
Which is also untrue. You need to pick out what is propaganda and bias news . That is my honest opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fareed_Zakaria
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 4 2022 03:52pm)
You are being unfair. Not everything from CNN is what you think it is.
I can say the same for MSNBC, FOX News etc etc.

I will give you an example.

Fareed Zakaria is from CNN and I personally think that he has a lot of insight when it comes to global and domestic affairs.
And he is quite genuine.

If you think certain media is lying there will also be people who says that RT or even China's Global times is lying.
Which is also untrue. You need to pick out what is propaganda and bias news . That is my honest opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fareed_Zakaria


Its like trump supporters: they love you when you agree and hate you when you dont. you can replace the word trump with any political figure / idea etc. alot of people dont care for alternate views/opinions.
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Oct 4 2022 08:59am
Quote (Santara @ Oct 4 2022 07:28am)
Why is it that you think "gives Putin his land claims" serves China's purposes?


Peace and geopolitical stability- at least to the point of preventing full blown world war- serves their purposes, they don't care about Ukraine beyond their shared opposition to US-backed color revolutions as a destabilizing force, they said as much at their recent summit.
When the US and Russia are at each other's throat, China benefits. But if it escalates to nuclear war, China faces an existential threat and would rush to try to resolve the conflict. But if Russia goes nuclear, China isn't going to go out of their way to provoke them and make the risks even higher. Its the opposite.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 4 2022 09:59am)
Peace and geopolitical stability- at least to the point of preventing full blown world war- serves their purposes, they don't care about Ukraine beyond their shared opposition to US-backed color revolutions as a destabilizing force, they said as much at their recent summit.
When the US and Russia are at each other's throat, China benefits. But if it escalates to nuclear war, China faces an existential threat and would rush to try to resolve the conflict. But if Russia goes nuclear, China isn't going to go out of their way to provoke them and make the risks even higher. Its the opposite.


In the event of a nuclear strike the ONLY way to possibly restore stability is going to be total isolation of Russia. Negotiating anything with them sends the signal to Russia that they can invade and nuke the country and they will be negotiated with and allowed to keep what they took.

Additionally, the patriotic fervor that would erupt in the USA would basically mandate massive cuts to our trade with China if they aren't abiding by all of our sanctions. We (the combined EU, USA, Canada, Mexico, etc.) hold a LOT more leverage over China in trade than they hold over us.
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