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Quote (Melatonina @ Oct 3 2022 11:31pm)


Lol, you wish m8.

While everything that needed to be said has been said, there is a fuckin place on north pacific with 2 islands near to each other, one is american the other is russia. why dont you fuckes go there for the final battle and leave us alone ?


Geez, you only get this mad when it involves your daddy. Are you okay bro?
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Geez, you only get this mad when it involves your daddy. Are you okay bro?


reggin ufts

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reggin ufts


Enjoy your PaRD ban! Hope it was worth it and I'll be sure to contact the French and/or Belgian version of Child Protective Services. Stay safe brother!
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Enjoy your PaRD ban! Hope it was worth it and I'll be sure to contact the French and/or Belgian version of Child Protective Services. Stay safe brother!


pls refer to post 13552 the next time you want to contact me, thanks
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China doesn't have an irrational hatred of the US to the point they would back Russia after a nuclear strike against a country they began the invasion of. Same with India. Russia would quickly find itself in complete isolation.

Whats even funnier is that you would suggest it while calling anybody else stupid.


China, like Russia, unlike the US, is guided by rational self-interest. They aren't going to adhere to some strict moral code in geopolitics that automatically takes the US side because Russia escalates to nukes. They're going to gauge the situation, including the risk for further escalation and how it could impact China. The overwhelming probability in that scenario is that China would make immediate diplomatic overtures to deescalate and intensify negotiations with Russia, then come away claiming a victory when they're able to pacify the crisis and establish even better relations with Russia in the aftermath. This would serve China's aim of avoiding geopolitical chaos and world war, but also serve their creeping geopolitical interests.

We can't sit around pretending that everyone is going to automatically take our side out of some grand moral outrage in every scenario. You're saying that now about "if Russia uses a nuke". Well, the same camp was saying it "if Russia actually invades". And they did invade. And India, China, Mexico, Israel, etc etc all rebuked the US's call to put Russia in complete isolation. A rational person would look at the difference between what they expected and what actually happened and rethink their strategy
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 4 2022 09:13am)
China, like Russia, unlike the US, is guided by rational self-interest. They aren't going to adhere to some strict moral code in geopolitics that automatically takes the US side because Russia escalates to nukes. They're going to gauge the situation, including the risk for further escalation and how it could impact China. The overwhelming probability in that scenario is that China would make immediate diplomatic overtures to deescalate and intensify negotiations with Russia, then come away claiming a victory when they're able to pacify the crisis and establish even better relations with Russia in the aftermath. This would serve China's aim of avoiding geopolitical chaos and world war, but also serve their creeping geopolitical interests.

We can't sit around pretending that everyone is going to automatically take our side out of some grand moral outrage in every scenario. You're saying that now about "if Russia uses a nuke". Well, the same camp was saying it "if Russia actually invades". And they did invade. And India, China, Mexico, Israel, etc etc all rebuked the US's call to put Russia in complete isolation. A rational person would look at the difference between what they expected and what actually happened and rethink their strategy

Better said, half of the world doesn't support sanctions vs. Russia. That's the official bit which tells more than 1000 words. West!= world.

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Better said, half of the world doesn't support sanctions vs. Russia. That's the official bit which tells more than 1000 words. West!= world.


Let's be honest though, the vast majority of GDP supports sanctions against Russia. India, for instance, still hasn't figured out how to shit in a toilet. What matters is that the people with power are against Russia and we will bleed them dry. No one cares what a bunch of jungle people think.
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Let's be honest though, the vast majority of GDP supports sanctions against Russia. India, for instance, still hasn't figured out how to shit in a toilet. What matters is that the people with power are against Russia and we will bleed them dry. No one cares what a bunch of jungle people think.


What percent of the world's oil and grain and cold rolled steel supports sanctions? There's only so much money you can print to inflate numbers before its just toilet paper, and digitized currency won't help Indians poo in a loo
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Quote (Santara @ Oct 3 2022 11:16pm)
This is precisely what I mean when I say "publicity stunt."

And I say publicity stunt because I do not think they will do something so supremely stupid as to use nuclear weapons.


they might not see it as stupid but rather their only option at this point if they cannot get what they want via conventional means.

Quote (ownyaah @ Oct 3 2022 11:12pm)
Usually you are more level-headed so im surprised by this.

The partial mobilization hasn't even been sent to the frontlines, except for a very small portion. Then there is the next step, where even if partial mobilization isn't enough there will be a full mobilization, and a long war of attrition with millions of casualties, if that also fails then there might be nukes.

We havn't even entered the stage of partial war yet..

Chill a bit, you guys jumping months/years forward into conclusions


from what i understand (correct me now anyone) it will take months for this mobilistion to translate to a change in the current position. there is no sign of ukraine capitulating, in fact its the opposite, they are knuckling down and the west also shows no sign of relenting. ergo, what will russia do, if they cant achieve their goals via boots on the ground. On reflection, after editing this post to include other ppls posts - i would add - i dont disagree with you, one would have expected what you have outlined, partial, full, still not getting results ? tactical. lets wait and see what happens over the next 6 months.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Oct 3 2022 09:39pm)
^ferdia

was this posted yet ? Or you watched it already .
A longer video .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NoKcfKps-8


there was nothing of note in that video! they were just plain spoken on their wish for the EU to rely on the US.

Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 4 2022 08:13am)
China, like Russia, unlike the US, is guided by rational self-interest. They aren't going to adhere to some strict moral code in geopolitics that automatically takes the US side because Russia escalates to nukes. They're going to gauge the situation, including the risk for further escalation and how it could impact China. The overwhelming probability in that scenario is that China would make immediate diplomatic overtures to deescalate and intensify negotiations with Russia, then come away claiming a victory when they're able to pacify the crisis and establish even better relations with Russia in the aftermath. This would serve China's aim of avoiding geopolitical chaos and world war, but also serve their creeping geopolitical interests.

We can't sit around pretending that everyone is going to automatically take our side out of some grand moral outrage in every scenario. You're saying that now about "if Russia uses a nuke". Well, the same camp was saying it "if Russia actually invades". And they did invade. And India, China, Mexico, Israel, etc etc all rebuked the US's call to put Russia in complete isolation. A rational person would look at the difference between what they expected and what actually happened and rethink their strategy


China would need to talk to America, not Russia, to deescalate. America wont let china be a middleman btw.

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Oct 3 2022 11:24pm)
..."internal revolt", lol. Nobody should take that kind of thing seriously...


agree with that

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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 4 2022 12:50am)
What percent of the world's oil and grain and cold rolled steel supports sanctions? There's only so much money you can print to inflate numbers before its just toilet paper, and digitized currency won't help Indians poo in a loo


Russia will run out of men LONG before our currencies become worthless. I always knew the Slavs were an inferior people but it's shocking how pathetic they are. I know that China is effectively going to annex everything east of the Urals once everything is said and done but I'm not sure what will happen to the "European" side of Russia. What's a reasonable partition?
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