This is precisely what I mean when I say "publicity stunt."

And I say publicity stunt because I do not think they will do something so supremely stupid as to use nuclear weapons.

your talking about kremlin going from 1-100 when they have 99 more steps..




Your extremely naive if u dont think they could use nukes, just not now, we are -> partial -> full mobilization -> war of attrition x-potential years away from the nukes landing

If russian nuked ukraine US/eu wouldnt do shit btw, just so u know. The only problem is that, it would forever change politics, something neither side is willing to. They want to play by the "rules" so that there is a game of sorts possible.

--> would also lead to nuclear proliferation meaning every country would have nukes and nobody would dare to do anything political anymore. basically a locked game. But hohols would be no more, and eu/us wouldnt DO SHIT. Nobody actually gives a fuck about hohols, its just a means to an end.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Oct 3 2022 04:20pm

Interesting, I didn't know this:

Dmitrii Medvedev on Telegram

Today I had a conversation with the President of Nicaragua Daniel Ortega.

The conversation was about political interaction between our countries and cooperation between the parties.

But here is what came to my mind.
Almost 39 years ago, on 11 October 1983, the US raided an oil depot in the Nicaraguan port of Corinto, where it blew up five oil tanks containing much of the country's oil reserves.
Three days later, on 14 October, an underwater pipeline was blown up in the port of Puerto Sandino.
And between January and March 1984, the waters of three Nicaraguan ports, Corinto, El Bluff and Puerto Sandino, were mined by US forces.




Truly nothing new with the US blowing up pipelines and oil reserves in acts of international terrorism.

If Putin sacrifice more unnecessary Russian lives , there might be an internal revolt. It seems to me the Conventional Russian troops unprepared for this.

Just my opinion, and that is why I think a tactical or two will end thus quick.
Russia is already being sanctioned to the ground, might as well end it as soon as possible.

That is just my personal opinion.

if they wanted to end it as fast as possible, they would just call in a full mobilization, or wouldve done it months ago and taken all of novorossiya. Then put the nukes down and annexed.

Putin did everything backwards really.

internal revolt isnt gonna happen btw, its fantasy.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Oct 3 2022 04:24pm

Both Putin and the SMO enjoy 80-90% support amongst the Russian population.

"internal revolt", lol. Nobody should take that kind of thing seriously, the only way a revolt happens is if Putin fails to escalate more

agree 100%

Well they will have SCO and Brics to fall back on , but I do hope that they end it as quick as possible hopefully by next year Feb.

Your word choice doesn't reflect mine. I said I don't think they will, I did not say they couldn't. At this stage, Russian mobilization is extremely behind the curve. These fresh bodies are good for nothing but stopping bullets. No training, no equipment, poor supply. It is many months before something actually useful comes from them. In the meantime, Ukraine has tactical and strategic initiative with a long-since fully mobilized and supplied military and it's now showing up on the maps. By the time the Russian mobilization becomes effective, Russia will probably hold very little of Ukraine.

If Russia nukes, they will most certainly lose the support of their remaining important supporters, like India and China. This alone could spell the end of their war efforts, and a rapid slide into DPRK style isolation.

The mobilized men are for the most part former contractors you realise? They won't need much more training than a month or two, to get back into it. We have seen fucktons of relatively modern tanks being shipped across crimea etc

Also timelines dont really matter, remember just seoul changed hands 4 times

If ukraine was able to fully mobilize, what makes you think russia cant? Pretty silly take

This post was edited by ownyaah on Oct 3 2022 05:00pm