........ The Ukrainian president assured that his army will take over “in the coming week” other cities in the Donetsk region.

"20 hours ago on Red Square, Russia’s leadership chanted "hooray" for the annexation of new territories. "RF borders have no ending". Now Russian troops are leaving another strategic city and propagandists are looking for culprits. Reality can hurt if you live in fantasy world."
(Advisor to the Ukrainian Presidency)

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Oct 1 2022 06:28pm

Reading reports that the Ukrainians targeted a refugee convoy outside Zaporizhzhia with artillery. 30+ killed. Russia forced to take in several orphaned children who watched their parents die in front of them.

Just another day in the life of fascist Ukraine. There is nothing too low, too evil or too sadistic for these scumbags. "Ukraine" has proven to the world that it is too barbaric and sick to continue having a military. Of course, there is nothing they do without the approval & assistance from their US masters, who assist them with targeting data to more efficiently kill civilians. Godspeed Russia!

I honestly look forward to the day the west collapses, even though I live here. There is nothing short of total societal collapse that will *finally* force the millions of braindead sheep off their high horse long enough to realize just how fucking stupid they actually were.

A lot of us already realize what's going wrong in our own societies. This does not, however, imply that putinism is a better alternative or that Russia is in the right when it comes to this war. Being against the ideology and most policies of our current governments does not automatically turn us into allies of Putin.

There is, however a reasonable argument that Putinism is a rational self interest aimed at gaining geopolitical advantage, whereas American foreign policy has been wantonly self destructive and irrational, acting against our own interests. The way this saga started with Euromaidan->Crimea->Syria shows that Russian leveraged chaos for advantage in a zero sum game at every turn while America tripped over its own dick. I think the real enemy of Putin would be leadership competent enough to outplay him at his own game. The current strategy of blind jingoism that claims we're winning, as we're losing- is working no better than the last half dozen times we tried it

you need jesus and lots of it.

Of course.

I've stated a long time ago that Ukraine would've fallen already if it wasn't backed by the West. The amount of aid have they received so far is likely more than their entire military is worth.

So, do you agree that Russia does not actually have "way more military resources" at its disposal than Ukraine (even if most of Ukraine's arms come from NATO)?



How exactly are the United States losing right now? An argument can perhaps be made that Europe is on the losing side and would have been better off throwing Ukraine to the wolves in favor of uninterrupted energy and trade flows with Russia, even after we factor in the geopolitical implications - but the US? What they get out of this war, geopolitically, is worth far more than what they've spent in Ukraine so far.

Also, from the point of view of ordinary Russians, Putinism is definitely not serving their rational self-interest; does definitely not represent "winning". Russia has ludicrous amounts of natural resources and fertile land, relative to its comparatively small population. Russia should and could be a 30 times larger version of Norway if it was competently run, instead of being bled dry by Putin's corrupt cleptocracy.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 2 2022 02:46am

Ukraine does not. NATO has but is walking a tightrope.