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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 2 2022 10:02am)
Reason or no reason.
Nato got exactly what they wanted. Baited Putin into a disastrous invasion.
Russia will meat-grind thousands of men in Ukraine. Thousands more have fled conscription.

Not to mention intel the Russian army was supplied about their capabilities or lack-off. The material they have expended and won't be able to replace under current sanctions.

Not to forget the destruction of confidence in Russia as a future energy supplier.

What have Russia gained from this "special operation"?

If anyone would care to explain


Industrial military complex and banking industry did. No war is good for the people it's only good for profiteering buying up land businesses pennies on a dollar.
Putin would be making bank on the crisis just like Rothschild's did from WW2.

Eventually the resources would dwindle, the West won't put up with freezing cold winters, the lack of energy and sky-rocketing cost of living. By then Putin will Pull out, but that exit strategy has been calculated long before the war began

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 1 2022 11:02pm)
Reason or no reason.
Nato got exactly what they wanted. Baited Putin into a disastrous invasion.
Russia will meat-grind thousands of men in Ukraine. Thousands more have fled conscription.

Not to mention intel the Russian army was supplied about their capabilities or lack-off. The material they have expended and won't be able to replace under current sanctions.

Not to forget the destruction of confidence in Russia as a future energy supplier.

What have Russia gained from this "special operation"?

If anyone would care to explain


Clearly they haven't achieved what they wanted to achieve, which is why they are now mobilizing.

In WW2 they literally lost millions and millions but never gave up.

What did the West win by escalating this shit show? Can anyone present the costs at this point? ALL the costs, aid, weapons deliveries, energy costs, etc.

And then think this is only the beginning

Quote (SanduLungu @ Oct 1 2022 11:02pm)
you're right about teh attrition, the mighty russian army got decimated, lost a ridiculous amount of vehicles, tanks, aircrafts, etc. are now using ww2 weapons lmao. the new 300k will be absolutely obliterated.


So did the Ukrainians and Russia has way more resources
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you're right about teh attrition, the mighty russian army got decimated, lost a ridiculous amount of vehicles, tanks, aircrafts, etc. are now using ww2 weapons lmao. the new 300k will be absolutely obliterated.

lol, even Russia-haters like Santara admit that Ukraine is taking 2-3 times as many losses as the Russians. Real number is probably close to the 10-1 the Russians claim when you see Ukrainians conscripting students.

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lol, even Russia-haters like Santara admit that Ukraine is taking 2-3 times as many losses as the Russians. Real number is probably close to the 10-1 the Russians claim when you see Ukrainians conscripting students.


the discussion wasn't about ukrainian losses thou lmao.

nice what about-ism.

while you are at it, just say 1000 ukrainians for one russian :)))
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Oct 1 2022 03:46pm
Quote (Djunior @ Oct 1 2022 10:18pm)
Clearly they haven't achieved what they wanted to achieve, which is why they are now mobilizing.

In WW2 they literally lost millions and millions but never gave up.

What did the West win by escalating this shit show? Can anyone present the costs at this point? ALL the costs, aid, weapons deliveries, energy costs, etc.

And then think this is only the beginning



So did the Ukrainians and Russia has way more resources
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Putin escalated. Everyday Russia is still fighting in Ukraine, Nato are "winning"

Russia have removed themselves as a conventional threat to Nato.
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Oct 1 2022 03:46pm
hmmm thats weird.

In the midst of this war and hostility between Russia and the West .
Russia is allowing the US to inspect their Sarmat ICBM?

anyone can confirm this ?

https://eurasiantimes.com/war-russia-to-allow-us-to-inspect-rs-28-sarmat/
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Oct 1 2022 03:55pm
Russia and previously the USSR has been committed to nuclear arms reduction policies for decades. It's America that constantly breaks and walks out of the treaties.

It's a gesture of goodwill from Russia that costs nothing.
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Quote (Djunior @ 1 Oct 2022 23:18)
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you're right about teh attrition, the mighty russian army got decimated, lost a ridiculous amount of vehicles, tanks, aircrafts, etc. are now using ww2 weapons lmao.


So did the Ukrainians and Russia has way more resources
.

Do they? On its own, Ukraine would have fallen a long time ago. They can only hang in there because of Western arms supplies. So speaking purely in terms of guns, tanks, missiles, ammo and that stuff, the question is if Russia has more resources than what NATO is willing to send to Ukraine. NATO has multiple times the military resources of Russia, but they're obviously only willing to send a fraction of it to Ukraine. Hence, the question of which side has more military resources at its disposal in the long run is actually not trivial at all.
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Oct 1 2022 06:02pm
Ukrainian armed forces recaptured the strategic town of Lyman (Ukraine) from the Russians, constituting a major victory in this conflict which began last February.
This town is part of the pseudo-annexed and declared "Russian" territory by Putin yesterday...
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Oct 1 2022 06:03pm
This thread remind me how many people are willing to drink the koolaid and go with what they are told by the matrix.
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