https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

Anyways.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Oct 1 2022 06:55am

someone holding a flag lol

Why won't it read

https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/06/04/how-and-why-the-u-s-government-perpetrated-the-2014-coup-in-ukraine/

use this instead

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Oct 1 2022 07:11am

If you take geopolitics into consideration and especially Crimea, def not. Unless WW3 doesn't matter to you ofc, in that case it's fine.

I heard they are going to sanction China and countries who " Support " Russia soon.
They are not going to sanction India though.

why not ?

i see putins speech is almost an hour. impossible to dump it all here i guess.

They need India on their side.
I won't bother listening to Putin's speech. His speech will be similar to what Joe Biden is going to give to the USA and EU in regards to Russia and China if he is going to make one.

Ukrainians took Liman overnight and throughout the day. Russians seem to have mostly successfully retreated after being 'operationally' encircled.

First time a "Russian" town has fallen to Ukraine, and pro-Russia telegram analysts are variously doomer posting, posting cope about how everything will change on Oct 5 (as if), or just stating it without any additional comment (seething, I'd guess).

sp what are we talking here then? we should just let them be butchered by the russians, right? tought luck they are neighbouring russia.

but after, russia will be the neighbour of other countries. tough luck for them too?

lol