Quote (Ironfister @ Oct 1 2022 04:30am)
Its strange how you put trash on USA, yet think that they will be friendly with Germany.
Your country fucked up.
First you guys banned Ukraine into NATO, which resulted in Ukraine being neutral thus a target for Russians.
Then you made yourself fully energy dependant on a single gas pipelines from evil Russia, shutting down your nuclear plants, a cheap and reliable source of clean energy.
Then you never really invest enough in your army, never meet NATO guidelines on army spending and rely on USA to always protect you instead.
USA see it doesnt make sense to cooperate with you, you guys arent mature enough to take a leader role in European security politics.
You only care about your country, without looking at others, you wont build a strong Europe with such behavior.
Now USA, UK, Poland, Ukraine and other east European countries build a new group who take care about security seriously.
Germany decided to stay out, then so be it.
You spew so much propaganda BS at once. I don't know whether you believe what you say.
1. We didn't ban Ukraine from NATO. Germany, France and Italy did, all founding members of the EU but you guys aim at Germany as scapegoat.
2. There isn't a single pipeline, there are 4. One of them goes through Poland, the other one through Ukraine. We would never need NS1 or NS2 if Poland wouldn't ask for horrendous amounts of transit fee just because the pipelines went through Poland and Ukraine actively stealing, not paying up gas. We were paying for both of you. Stop getting gas and transit fees from Russia. The other argument of fully dependance doesn't work either. If Russia had 0 pipelines leading to Germany and just halted all gas export to whatever nation the price hike would be the same for Europe. We simply don't have enough energy resources of our own.
3. Whoever told you nuclear energy would be cheap, safe or clean is the biggest idiot on earth. The most expensive bit about nuclear energy is its waste which virtually never disappears and is very expensives to keep monitored. Then you have fuckups like Chernobyl and Fukushima which make places inhabitable forever. I don't want such a thing ever in Europe to happen.
4. Gas, specially gas and nothing else is used to create fertilizer on industrial scale. Germany isn't just dependent on gas, we consume as much as 100x of Poland together because Poland is a beggar nation which still reapairs its infrastructure from money given by Germany to EU funds. You're still at net negative. Back to topic, without that fertilizer food prices are going to go up all around the world, billions of hungry people and starvations. The peak is going to be in 2023-24. The rest depends on how long the war is going to continue.
5. We spend more on military than all Poland and baltic states together, it's just less than 2% of our GDP, but our GDP is gigantic in the first place. Again, you've been brainwashed by MSM. While we spend so much in military we also pay for the meat shields Poland and other Baltic states through EU to keep them armed in case of a conflict. Without the EU, the Polish and Baltic card house would crumble in no time. Basically, Germany, France and Italy are NATO's backbone through EU. In case, you didn't know, Russia's number 1 enemy would be Germany.
Back to topic, the truth is truth. I am not putting dirt on anyone when I say it how it is. Sorry, if you're from places where talking the truth is regarded as puting dirt on someone. The last nation to use arms with totsl disregard to civilian casualties on mass scale manner has been USA. Vietnam, Iraq then Syria. You can look yourself for the amount of victims. The biggest fuckups in history which is being interpreted as not so bad in the end written by the books of victors are Hirosgima and Nagasaki. The US is the only country which actually used nukes. When I want to describe what Putin's Russia could do in the future I am forced to look for the US references because there's been no precedence from other countries since WW2.
Mr. birdbrain, Russia would rather nuke Poland and Germany than Ukraine. Use your brain to find out why.
This post was edited by babun1024 on Oct 1 2022 01:19am