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Mar 20 2021 01:09pm
who would get a shot by this dude?

Bill Gates smiling and laughing as he talks about fake second wave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn6Nyp2t04Q
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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 19 2021 04:06pm)
Who here has received the vaccine? Which one did you get, and how were the side effects? Asking so I have more information to argue against the vaccine skeptics I come across.


I haven't received it yet, but a friend of mine has posted this online as an "ELI5" about the vaccine. Good basic info, backed by science.

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"Messenger RNA" is basically an instruction manual which can be read by the body to help the body create proteins. When a cell encounters these instructions, the ribosome reads those instructions and produces the proteins accordingly.
(Think of a cell as an office, and each office has a printer. The ribosome is the printer.)
This synthetic mRNA in the vaccine contains instructions to build the "spike protein" from the Covid-19 virus.
(Think of the spike protein as the car that the virus arrives in. The nucleocapsid is the driver... and the guy with the gun. Our cells will only produce the harmless car with no driver.)
Once these spike proteins are built, the body checks them out and notices that they're not supposed to be here, and immediately gets to work mounting an immune response.
(Incidentally, this immune response can include pain around the injection site, fever, fatigue -- you know, the "adverse reactions" folks are worried about. It's called reactogenicity, and it's actually a good thing because it proves your immune system is on the attack!)
The immune response consists of building antibodies to attack the spike protein, but also memory cells known as T cells and B cells to remember that car in case it ever rolls back into the neighborhood. Eventually, the antibodies fade, but the memory cells stay on the lookout.
(In particular, CD8+ T-cells are proving very effective at recognizing the spike protein on future reinfections.)
When the spike protein from a real infection comes in, the memory cells alert the body, and since the body already knows exactly how to attack, they destroy the entire virus before it can cause an infection, all because they recognized the "car" it came in.
Fun fact: mRNA shares its instruction manuals with those ribosomes and then just... dies. It's broken down and expelled from the body within a few days. Our own natural immune system handles it from there.
Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to know!
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Mar 20 2021 01:59pm
Quote (Melatonina @ 19 Mar 2021 07:37)
finally france has its own variant, was just a matter of time!

https://i.imgur.com/ouE2uhR.jpg

"People who died from britain variant were all vaccincated" doc tweeted that ..

again, just a coïncidence!


Patients who died with the Breton variant were not vaccinated

Meanwhile you are spreading bullshit fuck.

https://factuel.afp.com/huit-patients-infectes-par-le-variant-breton-avaient-ete-vaccines-avant-leur-mort-attention-cette

trash.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 20 2021 02:06pm
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Mar 20 2021 02:00pm
I gave your mom a new variant.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 20 Mar 2021 21:00)
I gave your mom a new variant.


u got vaccinated ?
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 20 2021 08:59pm)
Patients who died with the Breton variant were not vaccinated

Meanwhile you are spreading bullshit fuck.

https://factuel.afp.com/huit-patients-infectes-par-le-variant-breton-avaient-ete-vaccines-avant-leur-mort-attention-cette

trash.


whatever you say saucisse but just do gym and no need to be worried about covid anymore
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Mar 20 2021 02:39pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ Mar 20 2021 02:47pm)
I haven't received it yet, but a friend of mine has posted this online as an "ELI5" about the vaccine. Good basic info, backed by science.


Thanks for sharing that, I was wondering how long the body would produce the spike protein.
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Mar 20 2021 02:52pm
Quote (nobrow @ Mar 20 2021 03:39pm)
Thanks for sharing that, I was wondering how long the body would produce the spike protein.


The friend from whom I got that was part of the Pfizer trial, so he had access to the science for a while.
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Mar 20 2021 03:31pm
I'm not currently eligible for the vaccine in my area because I'm not obese (or old, or a government lackey)
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Mar 20 2021 04:31pm)
I'm not currently eligible for the vaccine in my area because I'm not obese (or old, or a government lackey)


You are non-essential
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