Official Jan 6 Committee Thread - Topic

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Jun 12 2022 05:01am

Quote (thundercock @ Jun 11 2022 10:18pm)

Inflation is obvious but I'm pretty shocked that election laws (which partially falls under the Jan 6 purview) is higher than abortion. I imagine that the salience of gun violence will go away within the next couple weeks.

The solution to inflation is simple but people aren't going to like it. The Fed can either intentionally cause a mild recession (but may overdo it and it will cause a deeper recession) or we can tax people so much that they are unable to spend money outside of basic necessities. As a fiscal conservative, I prefer the latter so that we can pay off our debt. Frankly, if you make less than 100k a year, you're not entitled to a life of luxury and you should live within your means.

The government is addicted to printing money and raising the debt ceiling. Biden doesn't know any better, he's been there for how many years?

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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 12 2022 03:07am)

The incident in Idaho yesterday that I'm comparing to, did not involve trespassing or violence or any crime. They arrested 31 people for showing up to a protest and charged them with conspiracy to riot. As soon as they showed up. Seems like the slippery slope of criminalizing protesters has slipped pretty fast

Conspiracy is a thing if it is provable. Should we let terrorist plots materialize if we can stop them to get a better crime or whatever it is you're suggesting? They were probably showing up to beat the shit out of gay people. They probably organized on social media to do so. They probably organized to commit crimes. They will get a chance to prove otherwise. In your view arresting is pretty benign and something we should expect from time to time based in many many previous posts. Just take the arrest because the system is not unfair to some groups of people, etc. Having a cop choke you for nine minutes is okay. Thin Blue Line bud.

One could ask why in this instance are you not being a police apologist.

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Jun 12 2022 09:37am

dont forget guys, some dipshits walking into a poorly garded building after authorities rejected additional security and the doors were opened is worse than pearl harbour and 9/11

never forget

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Jun 12 2022 09:58am

Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 12 2022 12:07am)

You mean these guys? I guess the intel could be off... OR it could be right.

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Jun 12 2022 10:05am

Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 12 2022 12:07am)

Yes, very normal protestors loading up with tactical gear and smoke grenades on their way to a pride event.

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Jun 12 2022 10:07am

Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 12 2022 09:58am)

You mean these guys? I guess the intel could be off... OR it could be right.
https://i.imgur.com/K5vw9sV.png

"Patriot Front" is a fed honeypot lol

Only dumbtards joining that shit

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Jun 12 2022 10:11am

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jun 12 2022 11:37am)

dont forget guys, some dipshits walking into a poorly garded building after authorities rejected additional security and the doors were opened is worse than pearl harbour and 9/11

never forget

https://abload.de/img/20220612_173408qxkk2.jpg

The only time I feel better when I see a "good guy with a gun" is when I'm hiking out in the Red River Gorge somewhere and there is the chance of being eaten. I see a pistol on a holster and immediately feel safer because it is a dude protecting his family and he would probably protect mine.

The meat at the deli in the grocery store has already been killed and is dead, the roast beef can't trample you, and the Boar's Head sweet slice ham can't maul you because its butchered, cooked, and made delicious already, so a guy with a gun in this place is just a weirdo and someone taking the hobby to the point of fetishment (A fetish is an object believed to have supernatural powers, or in particular, a human-made object that has power over others. Essentially, fetishism is the attribution of inherent value, or powers, to an object. Not the sexual definition). This guy is a deviant as much as a cross dresser would be in this situation, which isn't to say it is illegal or should be discouraged. I think deviance is interesting which is probably why I meet so many interesting people.

Quote (theCrossbones @ Jun 12 2022 11:58am)

You mean these guys? I guess the intel could be off... OR it could be right.
https://i.imgur.com/K5vw9sV.png

There are guys who were making excuses for the guys who were thought to be planning to kidnap the governor of a state as sovereign citizens performing a citizen's arrest. These guys in the Uhaul definitely consider themselves to be a Well-Regulated Militia and therefore within their rights.

Quote (Sioux @ Jun 12 2022 12:05pm)

Yes, very normal protestors loading up with tactical gear and smoke grenades on their way to a pride event.

Yeah, squash that shit right away. What advantage is there to let domestic terrorist carry out operations again?

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Jun 12 2022 10:14am

Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 12 2022 11:11am)

https://i.imgur.com/jhvwdzu.png

What do you expect from people who been living in front of their devices playing video games for the last few decades? They have 0 critical thinking and will believe anything the magic box tell them. Heck, Biden most voted president in the history of the united states should be enough to show how weak/dumb these new generations are.

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Jun 12 2022 10:26am

Quote (thundercock @ Jun 12 2022 02:08am)

Is Nancy Pelosi in charge of Capitol security? I'm pretty sure has no authority in that regard. I know that the Capitol Police Chief resigned the day after and he absolutely should have. Big miss by him!

I agree that a partisan committee presents problems but it's a gamble the GOP decided to make by not taking the committee seriously. Now, the GOP has no control over the narrative and you have to pray that Cheney and Kinzinger are good counter- balances to folks like Schiff. Large swaths of the country wrote it off the day it occurred and even larger swaths wrote it off before there was any talk of the committee being formed. It's just the state of our country and there is no getting around it. Most of the people on the committee are pretty fair though but you'll have to judge the merits of their findings yourself. I think it's probably better than they do a proper investigation that's slightly partisan than not do anything at all.

Yea, I don't think many people know this unless your plugged into this specific topic. Having said that, I think we need to establish that come coups are just flat out pathetic and have zero chance of success. As it relates to Jan 6, even if they killed Mike Pence, several members of Congress, etc. Biden would still be President and America would move on. Even if Pence magically sent "votes back to the states," it wouldn't have changed the fact that Biden would have been inaugurated. That doesn't mean their intent WASN'T seditious. For example, look at what happened to Kavanaugh recently. That was literally one of the most pathetic assassination attempts in the history of this country. It doesn't matter though because it exposed a vulnerability and it's clear that SCOTUS justices need more protection. Just because it failed then, doesn't mean it can't be successful in the future. The same principle applies to the incompetent, misguided, seditious pieces of shit who made up <1% of the people there that day.

As for the bold, the committee will eventually make recommendations. From what I've read, the Republican members and some Democrats want to have a more unified approach whereas some of the Dems like Raskin want to take a more radical approach as it pertains to our elections. Remember, this is ongoing and it will probably continue to do work until McCarthy abolishes the committee in 2023.

The gamble is with the Democratic party in this case. Will this be seen as a political show trial, or will it been as serious? Based on initial polling and viewership figures, it looks like the former. That's the risk you take when you form a one-sided committee. CNN was concerned about this the other day, are they reaching converts, or the choir?

The Capitol police chief reports directly to Pelosi. Of course she's responsible. The FBI question is much more concerning to me, though. Elections are so sensitive, there's really no room for their involvement. Given the really poor optics the agency has generated o liver the last few years, it would be a colossal blunder if they were involved in any form. It would be a really big fuckup, and people high up would need to be held accountable.

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