Why must it be bots if it doesn't fit the current narrative?
The other side of the Geo Political Spectrum can also spread news to their citizens that the Bots from USA is spreading their global interest as well?

Maybe we should look at news at try to figure it out by ourselves because we are in a very divided Geo Political situation at the moment.

And also this was from C-SPAN.

I just saw this on Youtube which I find it interesting while I was actually looking at Puppy videos.

The proof you ask is to see someone recording on video exploding the pipeline while saying "America #1", thats right bro ?

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China has the most direct motive, if not the most direct accessibility. Its very arguable for both US and Russian motives. They both have some possible gain, some possible loss, even if they 'get away with it', disregarding the risk of being exposed. The US should be wary of the EU energy crisis, and Russia still wants to reestablish that geopolitical leverage. But the US wants to remove that leverage and Russia wants to drive the dagger home this winter. Okay, pros and cons for them. But for China, that's all win:win. The rival powers are both weakened. But then again, China is risk adverse and has little means to actually carry out an attack in the Baltic so stealthily.

We do know, however, that the US was openly threatening to do this multiple times. Joe Biden went on camera and said something to the effect of 'we could blow up the nord stream 2' in masked language. So did victoria nuland. And karine jean-pierre deflected on our responsibility. And we clearly have the technical capabilities and the likely balance of being able to detect Russian attacks if they actually occurred.
In the absence of any other evidence, the weight of evidence is probably on the side of it being a US operation

I don't think China will send their subs or military assets half way around the world to sabotage the pipelines.
Also China is not exactly winning in this situation.

sleepy joe literally said there "would be no more nordstream 2", if russia invaded and confirmed along the lines of "we can do it" when a journalist asked for specifics, well.....

that pipeline was probably the last bargaining chip for russia to push germany into the negotiation camp, now there is no way back really

and what a coincidence that poland got their pipeline to norway that provides them with gas without depending on germany, however we depend on their transit now after our direct pipelines got blown up

Better than taking a highly speculative video as proof.

I think the main strike is that China besides being risk adverse has the most to lose if such a plot was exposed. If Russia could prove the USA did it, or vice versa, nothing really changes in geopolitics, we are already closer to direct war than any point during the cold war save the cuban missile crisis, and probably including that. If China got exposed meddling directly to manipulate both parties, that could actually change backfire in the biggest way possible. And besides, when you're already in a winning position and everything is going your way, you don't take wild risks. But its still worth pointing out that China is the only party who truly stands to profit from this.

Joe Biden's words himself isn't just a video but words from his own mouth before it being a video but yeah whatever fantasy story you're telling to yourself to fit your narrative m8

If you have another explanation to understand what he said we're hearing your genius voice lol

This post was edited by Melatonina on Sep 28 2022 04:10am

Well in a way yes. I don't think China is winning all or profiting all on this situation but I can see where you are coming from and I do technically agree with you.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Sep 28 2022 04:08am

It could just mean to put heavy political or economical pressure on germany to prevent it. You can't just say you blackmail germany to prevent the pipeline in a press conference. There is enough speculative room in that speech. The US are powerful enough to have many options at hand.

i'm not saying it can't be, i'm just saying it's no proof. Not even close.

This post was edited by BaHgerAUT on Sep 28 2022 04:42am