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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 26 2022 09:36am)
Afaik, there were several studies finding no link between vitamin D levels and covid outcomes, ex;



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I can understand it as being one of those novel theories with a reasonable chance to establish an explainable mechanism, like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and whatever else, but research into it pooped on the idea.


There is a noted effect. Vitamin D3 has profound effects within the immune system, hormonal signaling, and the bones. If anything, the variables within the studies are confounded.

But it only works if you weren't deficient at the time of infection.

Zinc and quercetin work if you take it during the infection, but not D3.

NAC is another important supplement, but only as a preventative.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 26 2022 08:36am)
Afaik, there were several studies finding no link between vitamin D levels and covid outcomes, ex;



or



I can understand it as being one of those novel theories with a reasonable chance to establish an explainable mechanism, like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and whatever else, but research into it pooped on the idea.


https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2021.736665/full

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Background: Several studies suggest an association between serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25OHD) and the outcomes of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Corona-Virus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection, in particular Coronavirus Disease-2019 (COVID-19) related severity and mortality. The aim of the present meta-analysis was to investigate whether vitamin D status is associated with the COVID-19 severity, defined as ARDS requiring admission to intensive care unit (ICU) or mortality (primary endpoints) and with the susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19-related hospitalization (secondary endpoints).

Methods: A search in PubMed, ScienceDirect, Web of Science, Google Scholar, Scopus, and preprints repositories was performed until March 31th 2021 to identify all original observational studies reporting association measures, or enough data to calculate them, between Vitamin D status (insufficiency <75, deficiency <50, or severe deficiency <25 nmol/L) and risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection, COVID-19 hospitalization, ICU admission, or death during COVID-19 hospitalization.

Findings: Fifty-four studies (49 as fully-printed and 5 as pre-print publications) were included for a total of 1,403,715 individuals. The association between vitamin D status and SARS-CoV2 infection, COVID-19 related hospitalization, COVID-19 related ICU admission, and COVID-19 related mortality was reported in 17, 9, 27, and 35 studies, respectively. Severe deficiency, deficiency and insufficiency of vitamin D were all associated with ICU admission (odds ratio [OR], 95% confidence intervals [95%CIs]: 2.63, 1.45–4.77; 2.16, 1.43–3.26; 2.83, 1.74–4.61, respectively), mortality (OR, 95%CIs: 2.60, 1.93–3.49; 1.84, 1.26–2.69; 4.15, 1.76–9.77, respectively), SARS-CoV-2 infection (OR, 95%CIs: 1.68, 1.32–2.13; 1.83, 1.43–2.33; 1.49, 1.16–1.91, respectively) and COVID-19 hospitalization (OR, 95%CIs 2.51, 1.63–3.85; 2.38, 1.56–3.63; 1.82, 1.43–2.33). Considering specific subgroups (i.e., Caucasian patients, high quality studies, and studies reporting adjusted association estimates) the results of primary endpoints did not change.

Interpretations: Patients with low vitamin D levels present an increased risk of ARDS requiring admission to intensive care unit (ICU) or mortality due to SARS-CoV-2 infection and a higher susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2 infection and related hospitalization.


/e from what I recall, the studies saying there's no link are ones that give massive doses after infection, as opposed to prophylaxis.

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/e from what I recall, the studies saying there's no link are ones that give massive doses after infection, as opposed to prophylaxis.



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Like I said, you post nothing but meaningless gibberish.



Why are you so scared of the truth? you this cowardly irl?

sunlight= vitamin D= covid prevention or management, not rocket science guy.

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Like I said, you post nothing but meaningless gibberish.



I cant figure out whether he is an Alex Jones-type plant trying to delegitimize good discussion or if he’s just a moron.
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I cant figure out whether he is an Alex Jones-type plant trying to delegitimize good discussion or if he’s just a moron.


you scared of the truth as well?

sunlight= vitamin D= covid prevention or management, not rocket science.

dodge kiddos, gds:
https://scitechdaily.com/experiments-show-sunlight-destroys-covid-virus-8-times-faster-than-scientists-thought/

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https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2021.736665/full

/e from what I recall, the studies saying there's no link are ones that give massive doses after infection, as opposed to prophylaxis.


I'm certainly not going to disregard it as a possible factor, but to take a step back into the context, these health providers are citing the CDC for their guidance, and the CDC's official line is that 'There is insufficient evidence to recommend either for or against the use of vitamin D for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.' Afaik there are still some studies on prophylactic use that are underway, but its a very long leap from the hypothesis of a condition, to associating that condition with a population, to using it to justify systemic racial discrimination. That's several unsupported leaps, and there's an obvious exit ramp for non-discriminatory policy- treating vitamin D deficiency as a condition, not race as a condition.
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you scared of the truth as well?

sunlight= vitamin D= covid prevention or management, not rocket science.

dodge kiddos, gds:
https://scitechdaily.com/experiments-show-sunlight-destroys-covid-virus-8-times-faster-than-scientists-thought/


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