Careful there! You're gonna break your back with all those gymnastics! Katko and 34 House Republicans wouldn't have signed on to what you're describing. It was an honest attempt from both sides to have a legitimate investigation and it failed.

Ultimately, it's in the GOP's best interest to sweep the whole thing under the rug. What could POSSIBLY be redeeming for them? I mean the leader of their party is COMPLICIT in this whole thing...that is obviously pretty terrible for the country and you of all people should understand why you shouldn't do that. It's best to confront your demons, learn from it, and make sure it never happens again.

This turned into Nanci Pelosi's witch hunt getting totally eclipsed by Lovermangenius' receipts real quick. I'm gonna blow this thread TF up with the actual evidence of who the real terrorists actually are.



This post was edited by LoverManGenius on Jul 28 2021 04:33pm

All the whataboutism's in the world will not change what happened in the capitol.

Ok terrorist.

Guy is pathetic

bitch please...

You're indirectly admitting it yourself:



... and conversely, it's in the Democrats best interest to drag the whole thing out into the spotlight as much as possible. Democrats were never engaging in an honest attempt at having a legitimate, open-ended, neutral investigation. They are conducting a political chess move (hammer the GOP for the association with the storming of the Capitol) and frame it as a "totally innocent, neutral, bipartisan investigation" because that goes down better with voters than outright admitting to their partisan motives.

On Jan 6, the GOP ended up on the wrong side of history, so they deserve every bit of hammering that's coming their way - but could we please stop buying into this silly narrative that this hammering is anything other than Dems seizing a political opportunity?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 28 2021 05:50pm

I think you're conflating two things here. There's the failed bipartisan plan and what we have now. As I said, 35 House Republicans voted for the former....which is quite a lot given the circumstances. That was a legitimate attempt to have an open-ended, neutral investigation. In your mind, what was partisan about the plan? Are you upset that the GOP had an equal number of seats? Are you upset that the word "vice" was the prefix for the top spot on the committee?

The current iteration is indeed partisan and it's going to be MUCH more painful for the GOP because the Senate didn't play ball. They will try to dismiss it as such, but the facts will speak for themselves. To me, it seems like the Democrats are quite a bit more serious about the investigation given it's members. Besides Schiff, you probably haven't even heard of the other Democrats. Then again, you would probably say that the appearance of legitimacy is all part of the Democrats' secret plan to make the GOP look bad.

Pelosi nominating one of the Republicans on the committee in the first place already shows what a sham it is. McCarthy should have been the one appointing all Republicans to the committee. Selecting Cheney of all people is just the icing on the cake. Do you seriously think that if the Senate GOP had played along, Pelosi would not have nominated Cheney (and potentially Kinzinger), and that she would have accepted Banks and Jordan? Do you think that Schumer would have refrained from nominating Romney to one of the GOP slots on the Senate side of the committee?

Technically, there is no hard proof against your theory of the case that all of these Democrat partisan moves were only in response to the big bad evil GOP refusing to cooperate. Fine. But imho, one has to be really credulous to believe that any kind of GOP cooperation short of literal public self-flagellation (with a spiked scourge) could have stopped Democrats from turning this committee into a tribunal to advance their partisan goals.



I disagree on your strategic assessment. Giving this tribunal any semblance of legitimacy would only add additional weight to the ugly facts which will come out. The GOP is in a really bad position when it comes to Jan 6. The can't divorce themselves from Trump because the base still supports him and such a move would destroy the party from within, but they also can't unconditionally defend the events of that day, or Trump's role in it, because the facts are just too clearly against them and going full QAnon here would destroy them with independents and swing voters..

Therefore, getting public opinion on this committee to split along the usual partisan lines is the best possible outcome for the GOP. It's not a contrived conspiracy on my part but a simple fact that politically speaking, the more legitimate this investigation is perceived as, the better for Democrats, and the more it's seen as a partisan circus, the better for the GOP.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 28 2021 06:28pm