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Sep 29 2020 11:52pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 30 2020 12:40am)
Meh, I think it will mostly blow up in bubbles which were already very Biden-leaning anyway. Conversely, in right-wing bubbles, Biden's answers on court packing, the GND and antifa will be blowing up as we speak.

I think the bigger story is that Trump came across as unhinged and obnoxious, derailed the entire debate and didnt win it. He blew the biggest chance to turn this race around that was left on the calendar. This, coupled with his super consistent deficit in the polls, means that he has to be the clear underdog now, irrespective from any controversies over an akward comment on Proud Boys or white supremacy.


I really wish we had more honest coverage from everybody about his refusal to commit to a peaceful transition of power.

He's actively trying to delegitimize the election, basically admitted he's trying to rush Barrett so he can have a favorable person to rule on the supreme court in his ballot objections, and won't say he will peacefully transition.

Trump's other stuff might be dangerous in the long term, where he emboldens white supremacists, but this is the thing he is saying that is truly, 100% dangerous and totally out of step with literally every other politician in the country. It's the thing that if he carries through, can legitimately sink the whole country.
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Sep 30 2020 02:42am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 29 2020 09:18pm)
not sure if serious...



He was arguing to the left of Biden on healthcare, which Biden couldn’t find a way to get control of, his aggression and talking points came across as strong to his base, and Biden came across as weak and unable to get control all night. Biden had one weak zinger (“oh be quiet”) that had nothing to do with policy. In this “two grandpas at the Thanksgiving dinner table yelling over the gravy” format, Trump came out ahead.

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He was arguing to the left of Biden on healthcare, which Biden couldn’t find a way to get control of, his aggression and talking points came across as strong to his base, and Biden came across as weak and unable to get control all night. Biden had one weak zinger (“oh be quiet”) that had nothing to do with policy. In this “two grandpas at the Thanksgiving dinner table yelling over the gravy” format, Trump came out ahead.


thats the problem; alot of people consider the louder one as a winner, as simple as that.
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Sep 30 2020 08:04am
9/30 update...first odds after the debate:

Biden 20/27
Trump 11/10

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Sep 30 2020 11:44am
Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 30 2020 02:42am)
He was arguing to the left of Biden on healthcare, which Biden couldn’t find a way to get control of, his aggression and talking points came across as strong to his base, and Biden came across as weak and unable to get control all night. Biden had one weak zinger (“oh be quiet”) that had nothing to do with policy. In this “two grandpas at the Thanksgiving dinner table yelling over the gravy” format, Trump came out ahead.


Oh, I agree with you.
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Sep 30 2020 02:42pm
Alot of post debate action today 9/30 afternoon update:

Biden 2/3
Trump 13/10
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Sep 30 2020 09:14pm
Quote (lito @ Sep 30 2020 01:42pm)
Alot of post debate action today 9/30 afternoon update:

Biden 2/3
Trump 13/10


interesting update lots of action again on Kamala after Biden looking sick and/or looking like he was reacting to meds last night...

Harris 1/65
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Sep 30 2020 10:17pm
Quote (lito @ Sep 30 2020 08:14pm)
interesting update lots of action again on Kamala after Biden looking sick and/or looking like he was reacting to meds last night...

Harris 1/65


Man, these people are really irrational with their money lol
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Oct 1 2020 05:09am
people arent factoring the fact that many investigations going on atm , hillary , biden, the staged russia investigation, joe bidens direct involvement in helping setup general michael flynn, i believe lots of things going to come out before the elections, i believe Trump is going to destroy biden
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people arent factoring the fact that many investigations going on atm , hillary , biden, the staged russia investigation, joe bidens direct involvement in helping setup general michael flynn, i believe lots of things going to come out before the elections, i believe Trump is going to destroy biden


The country is in the middle of a pandemic that has already killed over 200k Americans and doesnt seem under control, in the middle of the worst recession in 90 years, in the middle of the worst race riots in 60 years. Accessibility to healthcare still sucks, the deficit keeps spiraling out of control, China gets stronger, bolder and more dangerous every day, automation threatens mass unemployment, the country hasnt even started having a debate on how to deal with climate change, the border is still not secured, 1st and 2nd amendment rights seem more under attack than at any previous point in the past century, etc. pp.

It baffles me how anyone can think that some esoteric investigations about the actions of Democratic politicians which took place years ago could be the issue swaying voters in this environment.
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