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Sep 27 2022 08:47am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Sep 27 2022 07:44am)
Your theories are not particularly smart or feasible.

Russia would not sabotage its own pipeline that gives it geopolitical leverage. This was 100% the US/NATO


ah taking putin's side.
**shocker
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Sep 27 2022 08:52am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Sep 27 2022 08:47am)
ah taking putin's side.
**shocker


You donated 10K to an army of neo-nazis to assist them with murdering their own nations citizens.

There is nothing you can say that is or ever will be relevant.
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Sep 27 2022 08:58am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Sep 27 2022 07:52am)
You donated 10K to an army of neo-nazis to assist them with murdering their own nations citizens.

There is nothing you can say that is or ever will be relevant.


I haven't donated anything.. well except a few brain cells listening to a stupid russian bot.
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Sep 27 2022 09:11am
In order to avoid a long, drawn-out war where Russia inevitably loses, it seems likely that Russia is trying to goad NATO into joining the war. It's a much easier sell at home to "surrender to NATO" than it is to surrender to a bunch of people you deem inferior. While I would love nothing more than to divide Russia like we did to Nazi Germany, I don't think there's much appetite for it. Destroying Russia's military capability in the Black Sea and within 250 miles of NATO countries seems like a reasonable thing to do in 48 hours. I think that's the compromise position that would benefit all sides (minimizing Ukrainian losses, minimizing Russian pride loss, maximizing Western resolve to show China not to fuck with us)
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Sep 27 2022 10:00am
Quote (babun1024 @ Sep 27 2022 02:23pm)
Let me explain my POV then. I am from Germany. Whether we used NS1/2 or not they count as critical infrastructure to us. Anyone attacking them would be declaring a war towards Germany which is in NATO, unless the perpetrator is from within. There is no interest for the US to sabotage them in such an explicit way. It's either Russia or Poland+Ukraine+friends. Weakening Germany too much isn't in US interests. Poland and the baltic states are easier to manipulate for the US (lapdogs) but they aren't reliable partners with appropriate resources and influence throughout Europe.


The US never liked the fact that Germany was buying gas from Russia. I think I've seen trump talking about that matter and it was like years ago. I don't think either that US would do something like that with their own hands. Each side will blame the other and frame it to their advantage. Or do we really have to ask an Ukrainian or Russian who they think sabotaged ns? We probably will never know who it was.

Regarding Germany: Poland is more in line with US direction compared to Germany. They made sure that they are not dependant on Russia at all. Germany on the other hand did the exact opposite. Sure it helped Germany to be more competitive, but let's be honest: No one needs strong competition in the market.

This post was edited by Impy on Sep 27 2022 10:01am
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Sep 27 2022 10:02am
Quote (Djunior @ Sep 27 2022 08:43am)
Not talking to you, I quoted another user. See what he said and put my reply in context.

But you won't cuz you're just a butthurt shitsack at this point.


I read all the context in the first place and nothing changes upon review. You wrote "we're already at war," talking about fighting against the West. You outed yourself as a Russian as far as I'm concerned. Talk about shitsack.
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Sep 27 2022 10:06am
Quote (Santara @ Sep 27 2022 10:02am)
I read all the context in the first place and nothing changes upon review. You wrote "we're already at war," talking about fighting against the West. You outed yourself as a Russian as far as I'm concerned. Talk about shitsack.


Lmao now you are calling djunior a russian. You think everyone who disagrees with your low-IQ CNN/CIA propaganda is a russian. Man you are sad
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Sep 27 2022 10:19am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Sep 27 2022 11:06am)
Lmao now you are calling djunior a russian. You think everyone who disagrees with your low-IQ CNN/CIA propaganda is a russian. Man you are sad


Words mean things. Sorry this upsets you, huylo.
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Sep 27 2022 10:45am
Quote (Santara @ Sep 27 2022 06:19pm)
Words mean things. Sorry this upsets you, huylo.


Hey you know what you can do? Go fuck yourself

I'm not from Russia so if I say "we" it's automatically not them
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Sep 27 2022 11:00am
with brevity, the western world is not neutral with regards to the war in ukraine. In shipping billions upon billions of weapons, the west is financing one side of the war.
Moreover, I am really curious to know why we are not hearing any meaningful dialogue from western leaders for peace talks. even at this late date its not too late.

it is normal when the shit hits the fan for tempers to fray. try not to flame each other (regardless of political views/orientation).

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