Quote (PapaPsych @ Mar 8 2022 03:09pm)
Just a side not it appears, we got state deparment documents on the subject, china, russia have levied the accusation.
I think the Russian pretext for invasion of Ukraine is valid, Certainly more valid by many magnitudes than the U.S. invasions and bombings of civilian centers.
Pretext presented was the Ukrainian Governments ethnic cleansing of ethnic Russian citizens of Ukraine, for the last 8 years in large part by verified Neo-Nazi regiments of the Ukranian National guard.
UN reports concluded that political opponents of the new pro wester regime did not start the civil war in eastern Ukraine, and if you had paid attention at the time the new government began shelling and bombing civilian centers in the east immediately after the U.S. State Department Coup in 2014.
Western values of Ukraines government include regularly jails, and kills political opponents dissidents and journalists, with the same intimidates Political opponents, journalists, and dissidents.
Ukranian Nationalist have a history of ethnic cleansing some 100,000 Polish people in what was the pre war boundaries of Poland, their method of doing so was having armed forces surround the victims and having the Ukranian Peasants torture the polish in the most gruesome manners.
Most of the victims of this ethnic cleansing were polish Women and Children, even infants were cut up alive, bashed against trees, burned alive, disemboweled.
So I don't see how Russias pretext for invasion does not hold water, even if it was just a advantageous reaction to prodding by the Unites States of offering membership into Nato and all the things that come with it.
Subsidized Military, offernsive missiles placed on the boarder of Russia, Guarantees that they could continue ethnic cleansing without interference by Russia, or big daddy United States would send its forces.
I 100% guarantee our stupid political class will push this to a nuclear exchange, and their are many dumb Americans who believe the United States can intercept Nuclear Missiles.
Development of Missiles that could intercept ICBM's were developed in the 1980's and United States discontinued their development per Arms Control and Disarmament Treaties with the former Soviet Union.
These missiles got within range of an ICBM then detonated a neutron bomb burning up the fissile material of the Nuclear Weapons.
The Soviet Union and Russia were never bound to the treaties we followed and have developed these working defense systems, while the United States Disarmed itself for feel good lefty bullshit.
Don't expect much of a U.S. response to being nuked in the future.
Putin is just a great guy who doesn't do anything like that to political dissidents and is just invading to help out the eastern Ukrainians, yes yes makes total sense.
Putin doesnt give a shit about those poor eastern Ukrainians, at all. It's a phony pretext at a land grab and to dissuade further NATO expansion on his borders and nothing more. If Ukraine wasn't on the NATO bubble he'd have watched ethnic Russians die by the millions in Ukraine without even mentioning it.
He's been moving oil and natural gas into North Korea, the site of the greatest modern humanitarian crisis there is for over a decade afterall.