So if Trump renegs on the deal, Iran keeps the money they have been given as part of the deal and gets right back to making nukes.
If he doesn't reneg on the deal, Iran keeps the money they have been given as part of the deal and doesn't make any nukes for at least 10 years.

I'm not seeing the upside to renegging at this point. In fact - if the goal is to keep nukes out of the hands of Iran then possibly the worst thing you could do is dissolve an agreement that includes them not making nukes.

I already posted all this about a month ago when this all happened.

Just one little problem in the stuff I posted. Iran was not reporting all the nuclear material in the loops of their manufacturing equipment.
Turns out to have been quite a bit...more than enough to make a few nukes.

Simple logic here should say quite a bit. Why would Iran make ICBMs? What they don't have better places to spend money?
They claimed is was for local self defense, aka the middle east. Ya don't need ICBMs for that.

Anyways, this has all been discussed already. Why some folk feel the need to go over everything 100 times, is beyond me.

We can't possibly know the ins and outs. What we can know is that out of all the inspections not one has reported any evidence that Iran have continued their nuclear program.

Why can you never accept that Trump might do something bad?

Now this is about trump?

Ok, yeah he can do something bad, and has. But with you guys on here, I hardly need to post it.
Even so I have.

He is about the dumbest speaker on the planet. I've said this 100's of times.
IMO, he has good ideas though. Well he has, so far anyways.

Immigration is definitely a problem and has to be dealt with. TRUE
TPP was a farce. It made everyone rich at the expense of the US. TRUE
Taxes in the US are a joke, they need fixed. TRUE
The deal with Iran is a joke and needs dissolved or fixed. TRUE
Hillary is definitely a crook and needs to be dealt with. TRUE
Obamacare is for the benefit of the insurers, but is forced on everyone. TRUE
Washington is definitely infested with crooks, and needs to have the "swamp drained". TRUE
North Korea and by default China has got to be dealt with. TRUE
The US pays a disproportionate amount to the UN in money and men at arms. TRUE
Trump is the worst public speaker in a seriously long time, maybe forever. TRUE
Trump has not colluded with Russia. TRUE



I'm still not sure I understand which of these things you think, is NOT true. The fact that you may not agree with how he attempts to solve these issues, is beside the point.
As I've said before, I think he has decent solutions for these problems.
The fact that a few good old boys, mostly Dems, and a few Reps disagree, and are behind all the media crap is not only true, but makes it ten times harder to solve these issues.

It's blatantly obvious that there is a group within the US govt. that wants all these things to continue, for no good reason, and will stop at nothing, it seems to make that happen.


The reason some politicians want the immigration to continue, is because they are getting kickbacks from large corporations that want cheap labor.
The reason some politicians want Obamacare to continue is the kickbacks they are getting from the insurers.
The reason some politicians want the tax laws left alone, is that they profit from the laws and their complexities.

The rest of the list needs dealt with but because of all the "cabals at odds with each other" in the US govt. they aren't getting taken care of.


I really don't understand the hatred for Trump. If the govt. was cohesive and behind Trump, the problem with his lack of speaking skills would disappear.
Last but not least, we have people in the US and around the world that take anything in the news as fact, rather than as news of possible fact.

TRUE

I'm so glad I went to all the trouble to answer your question. :/


Now that that's over with...







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Trump failure on NK is terrible; he made China "the one able to fix the problem" he created himself...

Basically the diplomatic mistake is perfect.

Bro... they overfilled their d2o tanks by like ten gallons once. That's basically nuking New York.

Again, I'm not going back and looking all this up. It's all been posted before.

It's also been posted before that the watchdog agency for this, has been taking Iran's word, for compliance, in some areas.

Agency: Hey Iran are you complying? Iran: Yep, we are. Agency: Well OK then. <--- This is the main issue iirc. There were some locations where the agency was not allowed to go to.

So what we have is a situation where Iran is building ICBMs and an agency that is not permitted to do it's job correctly.
When asked why they were building and testing ICBMs, Iran said: To defend ourselves from attacks by other middle east countries. Ya don't need ICBMs for that.

Btw NEWS:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/17/politics/iran-deal-diplomats-congress/index.html

"There are lots of well-intentioned people on both sides in Congress," said one European diplomat.

Lets hope no more degenerates will try to make things worse.