its not over yet, its just started. We will see in 5ish years how much of ukr putin takes for himself personally.

Lets see how many dead ukrs putin will put into the ground. So far his ratio is pretty good hes died 0 times, and hes killed somethign like 40000. Cry? Like you said, its all about putin, so russian casualties dont matter

This post was edited by ownyaah on Sep 25 2022 02:38pm

In Russia for 7 months of war, there were 37 arsons of military enlistment offices and administrative buildings, since the beginning of mobilization - already 17 in a few days.

Russian casualties don't even matter to Putin. That much is clear.

At this point, what is Russia's win condition?

It appears, hold referendums in Luhansk + Donbass. Flood those regions with reserve troops.
Hold that territory over the winter and hope to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table.

Putin has played his hand in Ukraine and given a goldmine of information to NATO. They now have an in-depth knowledge of Russia's military capability, or lack of.

I'm not convinced by the pretext of liberating Russian speakers in those regions. I'm certain it is more crucial to Putin, to deny the Donbas natural gas fields and control of the former Soviet gas pipelines in Ukraine.
After all the Russian economy is essentially a gas station on steroids. Anything that would threaten Russia's dominance of supply to the European energy market, would be the biggest threat to those who Putin represents.

With that in mind, holding Donbass would appear to be a determining factor for Russia potential victory conditions.

I mean the Russian win condition is the exact same thing it has been for hundreds of years: Hold out until it starts snowing.

More psycho babble. Where did you get your degree in geopolitics? CNN?

Something you might want to consider - the fact that Russia has the most advanced hypersonic nuclear missiles out of everyone on the planet that can easily evade any anti-missile systems possessed by the west, and it has thousands of them.

If NATO intervenes in Ukraine, it will mean mass nuclear genocide. So they will be forced to do nothing as Russia bites off more and more of Ukraine over the coming years. Have fun watching ; )

orc leader confirmed coward
announced a draft then runs and hides in the woods to escape from the uproar
https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-putin-escapes-secret-palace-amid-anti-draft-protests-report-2022-9
Russian President Vladimir Putin escaped to his secret palatial complex near Lake Valdai, halfway between Moscow and St Petersburg, amid anti-draft protests in Russia, MailOnline was first to report.

According to independent journalist Farida Rusamova, who cited three sources familiar with Putin's schedule, the Russian president traveled to his vacation home on Wednesday.

He has been resting his "body and soul" at the luxury complex, which is situated within a forest, Rusamova said in a Telegram post.

MailOnline reports that it boasts a three-story spa building, complete with a float pool and mud bath, and a personal beauty parlor.

So this is basically the geopolitical equivalent of Newsmax posting a story about how Joe Biden escapes to a deleware compound amid protests, right?

This explanation doesn't hold up to scrutiny. By weaponizing its gas supplies against Europe, Russia has once and for all soured its most important customers. Russia has just proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is unreliable. And with Europe trying to phase out fossils anyway due to global warming, they just pushed them even further in this direction. Furthermore, Russia has more or less forced Europe to negotiate long-term gas deals with Qatar, Canada, the US, Argentina. Long story short, their actions have irrevocably diminished their market share in Europe.

This line of thinking would only make sense if Russia won the economic war so extremely decisively that the Europeans basically come crawling back to Putin with pants down and buttholes prelubed, begging that they'd do anything to get the gas flowing again. That's clearly not gonna happen; if Russia had such an obvious and lopsided advantage in the economic war, Putin would have played this card right at the start of this conflict and not waited until late summer before closing the gas tap.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Sep 25 2022 05:47pm

Lol.

You continue to post blatantly stupid propaganda even after having been called out numerous times.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. People.

No wonder the powers that be are able to get away with literally anything they want. Because the masses refuse to accept when they are being lied to, even when it is in their face and obvious, and even though they know they have been lied to before, they continue on as if nothing is happening.

Valid angle, but it will be 10-15 years before Europe could be completely off natural gas