will read the link later but agree with your sentiment



and



will watch those later

To my mind the real question is whether the mobilisation of russia will be sufficient for Putin to achieve his objectives. my thought is no, it wont, and therefore it remains to be seen what will happen at that point.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 25 2022 11:56am

Ok watched that, agree with everything Peterson said.



Ok, watched that as well, no doubt someone in the topic will throw whataboutism's and twosideisms at you, but I acknowledge your point.



watched this as well. I applaud the protests but my view is that they will be brutally suppressed. my understanding of the situation is that putin rewards loyalty from those who protect him and that they would have no problem brutally suppressing any protests. in the absense of an alternative to putin i just dont see him losing control via internal protest (but i really dont mind being wrong on this point).

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 25 2022 12:35pm

LOL! You see, this is why you're never going to be able to assimilate in this country. We had thousands of protests against the Iraq War and guess what? They didn't get arrested! We also voted the Republicans out of office and we were out by 2011 (they begged for us to come back like dogs once ISIS started taking over but what do you expect from a bunch of ungrateful ragheads?).

In Russia, they don't have the right to protest which forces people to do more drastic things. I'm also not advocating terrorism....attacking military infrastructure, by definition, is not terrorism.

>We had protests against the Iraq war, so anti-war Russians should assassinate and sabotage their own in a similar war

Makes sense. You're turning into one of these shit-tier multi posters, where the statements are so dumb that it's best to just gloss over.

Protests didn't accomplish shit nor voting people out. We staid in Iraq even though we knew the WMD reason for invading was complete bullshit, well into a democratic presidency.

Given that you're not ALLOWED to protest in Russia, yes, Russians should take more severe action to protect their liberties. If protests were violently suppressed in America like they are in Russia, I would expect Americans to escalate. It's literally rooted in our history. Are you unfamiliar with the four boxes of liberty?

Didn't accomplish shit? Then why did the war end during Obama's first term? You can find tons of articles about how "the last US troop withdrew December 2011."

didnt you guys try a coup like a year ago. After your guy who is no different from the other guy lost. sit down kid

You have a 2 party system where both parties represent the exact same geopolitical agenda. You just have the impression of freedom.

Lemme simplify it for you, no matter who is "president" the US will always have inherent economical and political interests that they will serve. Just as the russians also have their interests.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Sep 25 2022 01:12pm

Sometimes I think USA is just a totalitarian regime with extra steps. Sometimes....

it is the best and only existing democracy thanks to guns and other brillant stuff from usa

There were protests both in February and now when mobilization was announced in Russia. It's like you don't even bother to inform yourself.

The war in Iraq ended after a decade of knowing it was based on bullshit. The war in Afghanistan ended after 20 years. Both were deeply unpopular for many years. I guess if Russia stops the war in 10 years they'd be on equal footing at the pace of how our democratically elected officials are.

The reason why the American dream is a dream is simply because you have to be in a dream to achieve it .